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V3N0M3333  
28 May 2011 09:41 | Quote
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Empirism says:
melodical awareness and thinking while playing more than shredding quality


this is what i am trying to get at with the difference between playing with sense and shredding.

and thanks tiny! :)
gshredder2112  
28 May 2011 11:41 | Quote
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A good musician should have both melodic awareness and a proper technique.
case211  
28 May 2011 15:41 | Quote
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@Venom

Not a bad solo you posted, but I couldn't decipher much of the notes under the distortion. You have good technique on the fast runs and the sweeps were good, but I'm not sure if it was the distortion or sloppy playing that made so much noise over top of some parts.
You can definitely alternate pick way faster and better than me however ;)
V3N0M3333  
28 May 2011 22:07 | Quote
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thanks case

and about the noise...it wasnt the distortion, it was the recording equipment and the style of recording that i used.

i used the headphone output on my amp(flextone II) and sent it to the usb interface i have on my computer. also i used fruity loops studio, which in my opinion, is made for better use with mics. and recently i found out about "dirty power", which most likely came from the amp cable that my father gave me from like the late 80's(the cable is older than me haha).

as for the crappy playing, when i made that solo it sounded nothing like that. it was SUPER hard and was wayyyy above my playing ability at the time even though I(emphasis) made it. the song was supposed to be completely done around september of 2010(i was playing around 10 months then....i sucked), we didnt finish the song until january of 2011.

between those months i practiced the original solo(and other things) and made many revisions to it to "crop out" the parts that were too hard for me. i came up with what you hear now....still too hard. it was 2:00 in the morning when i recorded that take of the solo(not an excuse...we are energetic people) and i couldnt have been happier to finally get the song over with. btw im talking about the second part being hard...the 1st part that is strictly alternate picking i had down pact and i recorded that about 3 months before the second part that starts with the sweeps(i redid it of course to keep it fresh).

but i didnt wanna do another take since i saw that one to be perfect(not as in how clear the notes are or how correct it was...I personally felt it was perfect). plus i KNEW i couldnt even get remotely close to the one you heard if i was to try it again.

but today i can almost play the solo with ease....almost.

V3N0M3333  
29 May 2011 16:31 | Quote
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anybody want a tab 4 it???
tinyskateboard  
29 May 2011 19:49 | Quote
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How do you do a solo WAY above your ability? "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Inigo Montoya: from The Princess Bride. The second best movie of the 80's.
gshredder2112  
29 May 2011 21:28 | Quote
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^^^@ tsb its kinda like hearing somethin in your head,and wanting to express it on your guitar,if that makes sens.
V3N0M3333  
29 May 2011 23:23 | Quote
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thats exactly what i mean tiny....and gs basically put it in the simplest form i can think of....actually, what gs said is what happened to me so thanks for the explanation
tinyskateboard  
29 May 2011 23:30 | Quote
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I'm good at sports, but I have never played way above my ability. Always either at my ability or below but never above, because then that WOULD be my ability, and it would mean that I would had gotten better.

I guess I see myself differently than you guys see yourselves.

gshredder2112  
29 May 2011 23:44 | Quote
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But tiny,could you see yourself playing bettrr?Have you ever had adrenaline rush,and played or did something amazing in your sports?Thats what i mean.
V3N0M3333  
29 May 2011 23:46 | Quote
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V3N0M3333 says:
between those months i practiced the original solo(and other things) and made many revisions to it to "crop out" the parts that were too hard for me. i came up with what you hear now


this is where i tried to expand my boundaries of playing by stepping out of my "comfort zone" and, like you said, make those parts that were above my ability something that i can actually do from then on out.

we basically are saying the same thing in a different way
shredguitar17  
30 May 2011 05:50 | Quote
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CHEEZY ALERT!!!!

Yeah. My imput: "Its Relative". Einstein literally had the answer for everything when he stated his theory of relativity. Everyone is so different, meaning you are a virtuso and have only been a little experience, or you are a virtuoso by experience.

I unfortunately have some skill from a lot of time, patience and experience (10 years). I have dabbled in everything from guitar to tablas, drums to piano. I am no virtuoso nor do I completely understand music theory as a whole. But I feel music. I think above all that is what counts... not years... not knowledge... but relative feeling. Think about.

BTW Congrads on learning those tools of the trade that fast. Learn some jazz harmonies and bossa nova sways and ill recomend you anyday.

Good luck.
V3N0M3333  
30 May 2011 08:12 | Quote
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@sg17 i was inspired to try to be able to get as much practice in as possible and to become extremely good in little time after i found out that MAB was faster than his teacher after two years of lessons. i dont really know how fast he was back then(he couldve been slow), but i figured i can do the same thing if he can do it.

see, im not the kind of person to really praise people like MAB(who i dont even really like), malmsteen, PG, slash and a lot of other well known guitar gods for being as good and popular as they are. i dont walk around with a " i can do that too" attitude, but all they did to get where they are was simply....practice and dedication. and i plan to do the same.

i cant wait until the day when im considered a virtuoso in the world of music(its obvious what im going for as a guitarist).

also, i have a natural feel for music as well. i realized this a while ago...but back then i thought guitar would be impossible for me to play.

and thanks for the congrats :)
btimm  
30 May 2011 09:30 | Quote
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I have been playing and trying to learn for a little over a year. Chuck Norris told the world I was the greatest guitarist alive and everyone agreed because they didn't want to get punched in the face.
macandkanga  
30 May 2011 12:57 | Quote
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Good one btimm!

Also, regarding this thread, I think everyone here has their own experience, ability, and style. I don't think it's the destination but the journey anyways. While I may not be totally happy with my playing today, I'm totally happy with the journey that I've been on. I've been playing the the guitar for myself and others for about 35 years! How can I not be happy with that!

If you play and practice for the purpose of competition with others, you will never be satisfied. At least not for that long. In the world of competition, there's always in one way or the other, someone better than you.
V3N0M3333  
30 May 2011 14:18 | Quote
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V3N0M3333 says:
i never practice with the intention of being better than others


this is what i said earlier in the postings

and your 35 years of playing with other people are the kinds of experiences i was talkin about
macandkanga  
30 May 2011 14:37 | Quote
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My statement wasn't directed at you Venom. Or, anybody else for that matter. I saw what you wrote earlier and I like that! Of course we all want to be better. That's why we practice. But to better ourselves. I think we are in agreement here.
gshredder2112  
30 May 2011 14:42 | Quote
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Play for your own enjoyment,and the enjoyment of others.Never too make someone feel inferior.
macandkanga  
30 May 2011 15:28 | Quote
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Exactly gshred.
btimm  
30 May 2011 16:33 | Quote
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I practice so Chuck Norris doesn't roundhouse kick to me to the face.
gshredder2112  
30 May 2011 16:44 | Quote
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-Btimm-"Hey chuck listen to this new song!
Chuck-"ok""
Btiim-"*plays song*
Chuck-"YOU MISSED A NOTE!"*roundhouse to face*
Btimm-*guitar feedback*


\M/(*-+)
gs2112
V3N0M3333  
30 May 2011 17:57 | Quote
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ahhhhh, chuck norris jokes haha

@ mac...i knew you werent talking to me..i just wanted you to see that we were on the same page. and what did you like that i wrote earlier...sorry but i get confused when people are not "exact" in text :)
btimm  
30 May 2011 21:10 | Quote
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hahaha

In regards to your original point of the thread venom, I should say with all respect I don't find it to be very important. Just play for the love of music and the guitar and you will progress at whatever rate you progress at. I think macandkanga said in the thread (forgot who if I am wrong, sorry) that it is alla bout the journey and I couldn't agree more. If you learn quickly, great. If it takes time, great. Just enjoy playing.
gshredder2112  
30 May 2011 21:20 | Quote
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THIS THREAD BROKE 100 POSTS ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!
tinyskateboard  
30 May 2011 22:30 | Quote
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macandkanga  
31 May 2011 11:06 | Quote
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People think Eddie Van Halen wrote Eruption. Chuck Norris looked at his guitar and a string broke. He got mad and stared at it. It played Eruption by itself to try and make amends to Chuck. Eddie still has'nt given credit to Chuck to this day.
DanielM  
31 May 2011 12:28 | Quote
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After shattering several Floyd Rose tremolos, Chuck Norris decided to use neck bends for dive bombing.

I suppose that's what the youth of today might call "DA BROOTLZ"
macandkanga  
31 May 2011 13:00 | Quote
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Chuck Norris never learned how to play the guitar. The guitar had to learn how to play him. However, the guitar was not successful. Chuck Norris don't get played.
case211  
1 Jun 2011 02:53 | Quote
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Chuck Norris once went to a Megadeth concert...There was no music that day. XD
shredguitar17  
1 Jun 2011 03:31 | Quote
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Chuck Norris will probably die of something random like a stingray.... oh too soon? That should be a Tarantino movie: "Death of Norris-The Stingray Incident." Now that would be a good movie.
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