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BodomBeachTerror  
30 Oct 2009 12:33 | Quote
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okay so i found a vintage guitar on ebay i might buy. its an Archtop acoustic, and it has F holes instead of the circle hole. what difference will this make in sound & volume?
Damien  
30 Oct 2009 12:36 | Quote
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Wouldn't it depend on the size of the F-Holes, if they're big/sameish size as a Circle Hole they volume shouldn't really be any different.
BodomBeachTerror  
30 Oct 2009 12:39 | Quote
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heres a pic


Heather  
30 Oct 2009 12:40 | Quote
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I think the volume would be decreased wouldn't it? I think with one big circular hole under the strings the volume is loud and just generally more echoed. Instruments like violins (pretty cruddy example because of the different way they're played, I know) I think only take F-holes well because they're small and the sound is more reflected anyway. On an electric that would be fine because obvoiusly they can be made louder anyway, but since acoustics are dependant on their own body I doubt it will sound too well. The circular hole under the string has the sound travel pretty much directly into it, with smaller and more distant f-holes not as much would be caught I'd think.

I might be wrong. I've not had the best guitar experiance here, so someone else might come with a totally different answer to me. But I just don't think it will work thinking of it.
fender_bender  
30 Oct 2009 12:40 | Quote
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Probably won't sound as deep I'd imagine. It might sound louder having wood just under the strings for the sound to bounce off of. Most classical stringed instrument have f-holes and those suckers can be loud.
fender_bender  
30 Oct 2009 12:41 | Quote
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Heather we keep posting at the same time! lol.
Heather  
30 Oct 2009 12:42 | Quote
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Haha I know! :P It's getting ridiculous now!
fender_bender  
30 Oct 2009 12:43 | Quote
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Thats pretty sweet looking. What brand?
BodomBeachTerror  
30 Oct 2009 12:44 | Quote
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i believe it is a Harmony, it might be Arcadia, its kinda confusing
AlexB  
30 Oct 2009 13:53 | Quote
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If Its Really cheap,buy it!
BodomBeachTerror  
30 Oct 2009 13:55 | Quote
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if its still cheap by the time its up i probably will. or at least make it an early christmas present =p
fender_bender  
30 Oct 2009 13:59 | Quote
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I love the 'tiger stripe' look to it. I bought my SG just because it was cheap and I had the money. If you got the money and its what you want then do it.
kellenman  
30 Oct 2009 14:01 | Quote
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My buddy has an acoustic with f-holes, it's definitely one of my favorite guitars. I would say that it produces a little less volume than the Circle hole guitars, and it sounds more raw, but this is just his guitar. I don't have enough experience with f-hole guitars to answer your question.
BodomBeachTerror  
30 Oct 2009 14:09 | Quote
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i really dont need another guitar, i dont really have the money either, im still paying off my schecter. but im really into vintage old stuff. i would look so cool playing this =p

but im still gonna try to get it
Guitarslinger124  
30 Oct 2009 14:12 | Quote
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F-holes have a more mellow round sound, like playing on your bridge pickup. They are pretty sweet but are usually combined with an acoustic/electric setup.
BodomBeachTerror  
30 Oct 2009 14:14 | Quote
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how hard would it be to install a pickup?
fender_bender  
30 Oct 2009 14:17 | Quote
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I said the exact same thing about 4 guitars ago! The same reason I bought the SG again. It was a '61 LP reissue and looked vintage! I saw a picture of me playing it onstage and I didn't look to cool playing it. Something about the yellowish white finish didn't look good on me. Could have been what I was wearing. I have 0 stage presence anyway. My pic to the left is about the extent of my stage presence. Trying to work on that!
RA  
30 Oct 2009 16:11 | Quote
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first- never buy a guitar with out playing it especially an acoustic. Even if it is the same model. wood varies so much that you really have to consider each single guitar in it own realm.

second- hollow-body Archtops are a hell of a lot louder then flattops. reason why no guitar in jazz/classical Assembles then archtops(thank to Orville and the gut with the "D" for a last name his is a new york Italian guy very famous look up archtops i'm in a rush sorry)

third- Oval holes technically push out more bass (there is a agruement for cello to have one) then f-holes so jazz guitarist wanted a more even sound, but the body shape has more to do with it. think the reason why there is dreadnoughts and Classical[or martin's tpye D-?? or 00-??(i think)] .

fourth- two whys to get pickup floating(attach to pick gaard) or routing them in. Go floating.


pss sound come form the top wood vibrating the holes are just there to move air to get a cleaner vibrate there not where the sound comes from
sev121993  
30 Oct 2009 16:52 | Quote
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Always remember, when buying a guitar like this, you may have to touch it. Keep that in mind.
BodomBeachTerror  
30 Oct 2009 17:57 | Quote
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well ive got all my guitars without playing them first, and im very satisfied with all of them. im not picky. besides, its almost 70 years old, i dont expect it to feel or sound perfect

but thanks a ton for the info
Evan  
30 Oct 2009 18:05 | Quote
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So, if you aren't buying it for feel or sound, why then? Are you buying it for the history of it?
fender_bender  
30 Oct 2009 18:21 | Quote
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Probably. I bought one guitar off ebay and it happens to be my favorite. I used to think I'd never buy a guitar without playing it, but I just couldn't find what I wanted around in the local and not local guitar shops.
Evan  
30 Oct 2009 18:32 | Quote
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Yeah. Sometimes, ya just get lucky.

Personally, I could buy online from Alembic & Sage Guitars without playing the specific guitar since they have do quite a good job of making sure their instruments are QUALITY.


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