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WickedBeast  
14 Apr 2008 00:06 | Quote
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How many of you guitar folks use coils for exercises?
les_paul  
14 Apr 2008 01:04 | Quote
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???coils???
WickedBeast  
14 Apr 2008 01:14 | Quote
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3 note coil example in F major (ascending)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------3---3-5
-----------------------------------------------3---2-3-2-3-5-3-5--5---
---------------------------2---2-3-2-3-5-3-5--5----------------------
------------1---1-3-1-3-5--5----------------------------------------
-1-3-5-3-5--5------------------------------------------------------

and continues until you move though the whole F major scale, then descends.
WickedBeast  
14 Apr 2008 01:19 | Quote
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sry about the sloppyness, the website keeps changing my tab

but explained- basicly you are moving up the scale but doing a willy wonka style stepping when he's going down the stairs "sorry for the reference it's what I see when ever i play it."
and their are no cords they are single notes... though this website wants to make it look like they are played together... they are not.
les_paul  
14 Apr 2008 01:19 | Quote
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It's new to me but looks like a good exercise I'll give it a try.
deefa  
14 Apr 2008 03:34 | Quote
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I think that exercise is called 'the spider'. I've seen it once before but I can't remember where. I'll see if I can dig it out.
Doz  
14 Apr 2008 11:54 | Quote
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I do a bit of some of that. Recently I've forgotten about it and left it out of my routine. Might put it back in, they're one of the more fun exercises.
mudnreo  
14 Apr 2008 15:20 | Quote
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its called a sequence as far as I have ever heard. You can use 2,3,4,5,6 or 7 notes, or you can do it by octaves even. I use to use them in practice but I get bored with them real quick so I don't do them much.
league  
14 Apr 2008 18:15 | Quote
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Yeah, I use this as a warm up and playing technique. Thats how I play most of the Major or Whole tone Scales. I think "Spider" refers to "Spider Chords" technique used by Dave Mustaine. Believe it or not, I tried it myself without knowing it was invented :D
Doz  
14 Apr 2008 18:24 | Quote
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Tried the spider chords or the thing we're no about here? I tried what we're on about here (be them coils or whatever) knowing what they were too.
league  
14 Apr 2008 18:30 | Quote
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LOL. Doz, I couldnt understand your English with the accent. :D
mudnreo  
14 Apr 2008 18:49 | Quote
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ok I never heard of spider chords, what are they?
ThePusher  
14 Apr 2008 19:05 | Quote
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Spider chords are where instead of only forming power chords with your 1&3 fingers you also use 2&4 to make power chords on higher frets and different strings causing less stress on your wrist.
Doz  
15 Apr 2008 01:54 | Quote
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League: I accidentally placed a 'no' in their. I was tired, yes, I understand my last post was a mess. :D
deefa  
15 Apr 2008 10:01 | Quote
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I was wrong.The 'spider' exercise I was thinking about can be found here:-

http://www.justinguitar.com/en/TE-002-TheSpider.php

It's a PDF file so you'll have to down load it yourselves, but it's well worth the effort, a real 'killer'!
Afro_Raven  
15 Apr 2008 14:44 | Quote
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I still don't understand what the spider/coil exercise is?
Congrats, you've found something I don't know the answer to, well done for putting me in my place!

Afro
TheUndying  
15 Apr 2008 18:45 | Quote
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Am i the only one who finds it ironic that a guy anmed Afro Raven has a bald as his avatar pic????
EMB5490  
15 Apr 2008 19:50 | Quote
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wow....plzzz tell me ur joking...disgrace lol. im jk, thts joe satriani (prob spelled wrong)...hes famous teacher/musician!
TheUndying  
15 Apr 2008 20:03 | Quote
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I know but he's bald ...
EMB5490  
15 Apr 2008 20:14 | Quote
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thts just his name....
league  
15 Apr 2008 20:29 | Quote
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I think this is the second question afroraven couldnt answer. Anyways, are coils and Spider the same thing?
WickedBeast  
15 Apr 2008 22:19 | Quote
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lol, the spider exercises are easy... I think coils are a lot tuffer if you stay in scale, and specially when you get to 4-5 note coils
Doz  
16 Apr 2008 02:47 | Quote
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Actually league, it's like the third or fourth. Infact, I'm beginning to think he's human just like everyone else, just with a slightly inflated ego ;).
Afro_Raven  
16 Apr 2008 13:54 | Quote
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Nice one Doz, got the nail right on the head there haha!
Yeah, a lot of people say I sound really arrogant when it comes to music and knowledge of it. I don't mean to be, but I just love to talk about it, it's something that I am completely obsessed with and want to always know more. My general aim is to know more than anyone about Music, so you can fathom that's quite ambitious to begin with!
Anyway, I still don't think anyone's answered my original question about coils/spiders.
Oh, and to Undying, I've never noticed that irony before, but you're right, it does seem pretty daft...

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Doz  
16 Apr 2008 14:49 | Quote
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The exercise being discussed in this thread is basically:

Play the same amount of notes on each string. You play two notes, then go back oa note, then play two notes from that position, then go back a note, then two notes from that position and so on until you've done every string, and then the same back up. I suppose it's commonly applied to scales... or sometimes only having 2 notes per string.
WickedBeast  
16 Apr 2008 18:59 | Quote
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Oh when I say playing out the scale, I mean it continues all the way down the fret board.. You don't just go down one position and back up... you go down all the scales then back up though the whole scale. I'll have to post it in the lesson thing for exercise, I'll use F major since it starts at position I ^_^
Doz  
16 Apr 2008 19:27 | Quote
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I suppose you could choose a pattern or a whole scale or whatever.


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