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J.M.P.A.  
22 Mar 2008 18:41 | Quote
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Hi I know that a violin is not a guitar but its has strings ;-) . I want to know were I can find some basic theory and how I can know if a violin is 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, or 4/4. Thanks
brodyxhollow  
23 Mar 2008 06:26 | Quote
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what do you mean by 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, or 4/4?

im sure if you just Google violin theory you will find something.
deefa  
23 Mar 2008 06:43 | Quote
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QutSQ-CNKDs
blackholesun  
23 Mar 2008 08:36 | Quote
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I think 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 and 1 refer to the size of the violin. ie, a full sized violin is 1, half sized is 1/2, etc
deefa  
23 Mar 2008 08:44 | Quote
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Blackholesun said:-

"I think 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 and 1 refer to the size of the violin. ie, a full sized violin is 1, half sized is 1/2, etc"

That's what I thought at first and then I thought "hang on, that can't be right, can you imagine how small a 1/4 size violin would be?"
So then I thought it might be to do with categories relating to size ie:- Violin = smallest then Viola (next size up) then cello then double bass.That seemed to make more sense to me.
What do you think?
blackholesun  
23 Mar 2008 09:15 | Quote
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Maybe 1/4 isn't actually a quarter. It could be the smallest size available, but might be half the size of a full sized one.

I doubt it's to do with cellos and violas. They are different instruments after all.
blackholesun  
23 Mar 2008 09:17 | Quote
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violin#Sizes

Wikipedia saves the day.

"Children typically use smaller string instruments than adults. Violins are made in so-called "fractional" sizes for young students: Apart from full-size (4/4) violins, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/10, 1/16, and even 1/32-sized instruments exist. Extremely small sizes were developed, along with the Suzuki program for violin students as young as 3 years old. Finely-made fractional sized violins, especially smaller than 1/2 size, are extremely rare or nonexistent. Such small instruments are typically intended for beginners needing a rugged violin, and whose rudimentary technique does not justify the expense of a more carefully made one.

These fractional sizes have nothing to do with the actual dimensions of an instrument; in other words, a 3/4-sized instrument is not three-quarters the length of a full size instrument. The body length (not including the neck) of a "full-size" or 4/4 violin is about 14 inches (35 cm), smaller in some 17th century models. A 3/4 violin is about 13 inches (33 cm), and a 1/2 size is approximately 12 inches (30 cm). With the violin's closest family member, the viola, size is specified as body length in inches or centimeters rather than fractional sizes. A "full-size" viola averages 16 inches (40 cm).

Occasionally, an adult with a small frame may use a so-called "7/8" size violin instead of a full-size instrument. Sometimes called a "lady's violin", these instruments are slightly shorter than a full size violin, but tend to be high-quality instruments capable of producing a sound that is comparable to fine full size violins.

Violin sizes are not standardised and dimensions vary slightly between makers"
deefa  
23 Mar 2008 09:39 | Quote
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Nice one BHS! I was thinking in terms of instrument 'families'.
J.M.P.A.  
23 Mar 2008 15:19 | Quote
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I want to know on how I can identify the size of the violin because I need to buy the bridge and were is need to be located.
deefa  
24 Mar 2008 06:33 | Quote
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I reckon your best bet will be to take it in to a music shop and ask them.
J.M.P.A.  
24 Mar 2008 15:18 | Quote
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the problem is were I live the music shop does not sell violins and in internet i dont find something to compare
blackholesun  
24 Mar 2008 16:17 | Quote
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Ok, your best bet is to email someone who would know. you could try emailing a manufacturer of violins.
Notim  
24 Mar 2008 16:52 | Quote
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The last violin I had I played it like a guitar but of course with a bow.Meaning no rules.
les_paul  
24 Mar 2008 17:00 | Quote
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Nice to have you back Notim, Hows Zimbabwe treat'n ya? lol. Just kidding glad you're back.
J.M.P.A.  
24 Mar 2008 17:19 | Quote
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ok thanks anyway. Thanks
Notim  
24 Mar 2008 19:23 | Quote
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Vacation is allways good ......allways


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