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Vslinger13  
23 Feb 2015 14:11 | Quote
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hey I'm new here and have recently started taking lessons. was self taught for a while took a three year break-long story- and am now back into it. I've been doing 3 days a week 92bpm scales first 5 note pattern full scale to the 9th, triad arpeggio,7th cord arp,9th arp. ascending and descending 3 times each using circle of 5ths. how long till i can use it musically? i see results def. but its not coming to into my playing.the other 4 days more or less i do exercises noodle around ect... how long did it take you guys to get the music behind the practice?
Guitarslinger124  
24 Feb 2015 09:59 | Quote
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One of the biggest lessons in music you'll find, is that playing a million miles an hour and knowing every scale and chord wont make you any better at understanding what your imagination is trying to tell your finger tips.
Vslinger13  
24 Feb 2015 15:16 | Quote
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thanks I'm just frustrated everything has the same thing musically with my stuff u kn
Guitarslinger124  
24 Feb 2015 17:00 | Quote
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It sounds cliche`, but that just comes with time. And, you know, it is important that you can actually play your instrument, so that later on when your creativity starts to come out, you are able to execute how you would like without compromise.
Vslinger13  
24 Feb 2015 18:40 | Quote
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well I'm trying to learn theory so i can play the melody in my head but translation falls short sometimes so i figured sign up here I'm always reading and just got a iMac with garage band so i wanted to learn more then just power cords and pentatonic scale runs that are lifeless. I've got some ideas but only a few and building on them has been a headache ontop of learning a recording software os, but i am seeing improvement i was just wondering how long it took others round about that is
macandkanga  
26 Feb 2015 15:12 | Quote
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I agree with GS. I've been learning a 22 page script for the last 4 weeks to do a new job that I start on Saturday. I had to learn the script verbatim! Word for word! In the beginning once I learned it, I sounded monotone, boring and uninteresting. I would recite in practice with my wife and kids and they would get bored. But I didn't miss a beat. Now, I can use voice inflection and other dynamics to make what I'm saying more interesting. Now that I now what I'm supposed to say, I can make it my own and go crazy! Even though I'm saying the same thing. I practiced by saying it as fast as I can, as loud as I can, and fast and loud at the same time as I can.

I actually used what I learned with the guitar and it translates to anything I do! Yeah, it's boring and uninteresting in the beginning but you will be surprised at how YOU will kick in when you're playing one of these scales over a chord progression. Right now, you're just learning proper technique and the scales themselves. All I can say is keep pushing! It's worth it the long run.
Vslinger13  
28 Feb 2015 00:21 | Quote
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10/4 would y'all recommend me pushing up to 127bpms? i can do 100 with relative ease just minor(not paying attention,mind wondering)errors? my teacher hasn't really said he said start off at 60 i been going up5 a week
Empirism  
28 Feb 2015 03:46 | Quote
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Allright, what comes to thread and metronome thing to speed up playing, is that you follow your teacher methods. You could push up bpms as fast as you can think of IF, you can play them but concentrate that you play them to beat.

To question you asked last in your first post... there is no answer. Some people found the idea fast and they play like virtuosos in half an year, but others like me... self taught, take years to understand things, that is... damn simple.

Like guitarslinger said it's a cliche, but it is really, you need creativity, you need that you feel and let the music come through your fingers, other people may disagree, but that is not found in technique training, playing and training covers or playing pre made compositions... as I see from you writings, you are leaned to lead playing... practising those "crazy train" solo's or something, maybe cool for practise, but it not "give" you anything for real.

What gives you satisfaction in playing is that you can express yourself with an instrument or you may use it as an instrument to take you where ever you want mentally... your technique training helps you, it give you tools to achieve that, but until you don't how I say, "understand" few simple, but hard to find things in theory, you are beyond to reach that, no matter how good you are technically and run arpeggios lightning fast up and down and so forth...concentrate theory.

Im not near any pro, I have huge amount holes in my theory understanding, but when I found out the meaning behind that most important thing in music is... the key. (goddamit It tooks years that my stupid head got it, do not make same mistake.) Many people that do not know me and heard my playing praises it and thought my playing level is far above my real level.

Key, scales and relative scales. Rest is up to your imagination. I strongly suggest you first start to improvise scales over key strictly and do not play "this and that" and think you improvising :)... you got to know what is the thing or baseground to what.. you improvise.

well...like Phip said in past, my posts are like morning puzzle, might be that you didn't got much sense of my nonsense raveings. Sorry about that xD. But anyway, keep on goin m8, you are keen to learn universal language, it's not easy, but It's damn worth of it. Keep on pushing any way that is fun and give's you pleasure over frustration.


ps. search "backingtracks" from youtube and try a bit scales over them while keeping in mind the meaning of relative scales and modes... and when you doing that, you dont train technique, so forget those arpeggio runs...xD

-Cheers
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Vslinger13  
1 Mar 2015 23:26 | Quote
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lo dude i got you 100% my teacher told me the same get backing tracks and solo I've been self taught since 17, to now i always have tons of ideas. my teachers point of the scale runs and such was to help me get the sounds outta my head with the desired intent. so now per him practice sweeping and lick techniques (those found in iconic solos such as mr.crowley etc)to really let me paint with the music. i fully plan on getting some stuff up here I'm pretty dumb an garage band is simple but hard to get it the way i want learning via the web with a very basic interface. thanks you guys have been very cool i just got the whole play in key thing lol i now kn all the keys no learning the modes but i get how they work in practice more so then theory. very happy camper i played for a buddy in a praise and worship band an he really thought my stuff was good so hopefully will get together an jam a little not my go to meal but getting to learn different styles and approach is what life about. some states are blue some are red and some ppl never would think to eat cow so music has many hidden lessons beyond the surface. slinging the v hope y'all stay rocking out


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