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How to write songs

Songwriting
Philosopher  
24 Apr 2014 07:14 | Quote
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Hello every1 I'm new here my name is Alex 23 from israel
My question is how to write songs
I know some major scales and pentatonics + base chords like Am G F D E and so on. I like breaking benjamin style of songs

help :)
Guitarslinger124  
24 Apr 2014 15:33 | Quote
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Songs are built from progressions of singular notes or chords, or groups of notes or chords. Everyone writes music differently. Just play your instrument, things will come together eventually. Writing music is entirely different from playing music so don't get down on yourself. Writing is a skill on its own and needs to be treated as such.
nullnaught  
24 Apr 2014 18:27 | Quote
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Do you know what chords can fit what key?
J.R.M.30  
25 Apr 2014 15:01 | Quote
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Nah, songs aren't built on progressions of singular notes or chords. That's what someone thinks from the outside looking in. Songs are actual fragmented phrases that are often deconstructed to its simplist form. Basically they're blurps.
nullnaught  
25 Apr 2014 18:34 | Quote
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J.R.M.30 says:
Nah, songs aren't built on progressions of singular notes or chords. That's what someone thinks from the outside looking in. Songs are actual fragmented phrases that are often deconstructed to its simplist form. Basically they're blurps.


Can you define fragmented phrases and blurps?
case211  
26 Apr 2014 13:57 | Quote
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@Philosopher

Listen to GuitarSlinger-he is 100% on point with his statement. There is no shortcut or formula to write a song-it's all about your soul guiding you through the music.

In short-just play your guitar and don't follow hard rules.

@JRM

This is your opinion. I respect it as such. However-I'm completely lost as to what you write songs like. Please explain what you mean-because I've never said a song is fragmented parts broken down to a more simplistic delivery.
How many songs have you written? Any we can listen to?


nullnaught  
26 Apr 2014 15:32 | Quote
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I personally would suggest you get some sheet music from the bands you like and study those for structure. Use standard notation.

This requires you know how to read sheet music.

and good luck. :)
Empirism  
30 Apr 2014 05:35 | Quote
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Well, songs can be built from phrases or use other methods as well. Depends on point of view, also there are a program in science, that "calculate" songs, based on rules and databases... anyway...

heres the link: http://www.drawmusic.com/HowToWrite/004Phrases/

that is very good to have an idea of this kind of composing style...

other, should I say approaches are Riff based composin, Vocal based composing or even a rhythm based composing to mention few, point is what you keep standing ground of your composing.

well, one of the most talented drummers in a world Neil Peart is said to got an idea of Xanadu's drumsolo from bubbling river (not know the fact, but what ive heard)

Santana once said "I don't play music, music goes only through me", everyone have their own methods to create something from different sources or inspirations or purely by technical means.

-Emp
OS(old school)


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