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Suggestion to scale around A madd9

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Empirism  
25 Feb 2012 14:25 | Quote
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Ive experiencing feeling of this chord and Im definately love it. I want your suggestions for a chord progression "triad" "scale" or even chords that share this intension or whatever suggestions you come of around this chord.

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soz, im bad with those inserts lol...

-Emp
Guitarslinger124  
26 Feb 2012 09:18 | Quote
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An Amadd9 should look like this (using your fingering):



e:-0--|
B:-0--|
G:-9--|
D:-10-|
A:-0--|
E:-0--|


If that's the case, try B Locrian, A Aeolian or A Melodic Minor.

Your chord however is very similar, only with additions of C# and A#. Try playing A# Aeolian and see how that sounds.


Rock on!
Empirism  
26 Feb 2012 13:15 | Quote
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Aaaah, thanks m8... I noticed I made mistake to that. I meant

e:-0--|
B:-0--|
G:-5--|
D:-7--|
A:-0--|
E:-0--|

Doh well... shouldnt post middle of the night lol... but anyway thanks, Ill try b locrian on that at start. Thanks.
Guitarslinger124  
26 Feb 2012 15:39 | Quote
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Dude you're way over-thinking this!




You're notes - E A A C B E

Check this out:

C Ionian
e:---------------------------7-8-10-|
B:-----------------------8-10-------|
D:-----------------7-9-10-----------|
G:-----------7-9-10-----------------|
A:-----7-8-10-----------------------|
E:-8-10-----------------------------|

C Ionian
e:----------------------B-C-D-|
B:-------------------G-A------|
G:--------------D-E-F---------|
D:---------A-B-C--------------|
A:----E-F-G-------------------|
E:-C-D------------------------|



Note the similarities. That is the most basic explanation of what you are playing.

Now if you want to look at it as an AmADD9, you can do that to.


A Major:

A C# E - 1 3 5

A Minor:

A C E - 1 b3 5

AmADD9:

A C E B - 1 b3 5 9


Does that make sense? If so, you'll see that essentially you are toying around with A minor. With A minor, you now have C Ionian, D Dorian, E Phrygian, F Lydian, G Mixolydian, A Aeolian and B Locrian.

If you wanted to mix it up a bit, since you have a really open and full sounding chord, you can play A Melodic Minor to spice it up a bit.

Hope that helps.

Rock on!
MoshZilla1016  
26 Feb 2012 17:52 | Quote
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That's cool GS. Great explanations.
@Emp You can also simplify it with the Pentatonic scale. Take the A minor Pentatonic....



Since it is a minor scale you can do what the chord name suggest and ADD 9..or 2



To get a completely different sound you can omit the 3rds and play... 1 2 4 5 b7.


This is actually a G Major Pentatonic but will work over the Amin9 chord. I know this is a simple approach but I find it works when looking for an alternate scale that even a beginner can use.
.....NOT implying you are a beginner man ;)
Empirism  
26 Feb 2012 18:08 | Quote
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Haha, yeah you may be right... I jammed a bit and found out that I love that chord even more... well yeah, In jamming I usually lost thinking so it came really easy to follow, I actually demonstrated to myself in reverse scale tool the notes Ive been jammed... (I suggest that to everyone btw) and found out again what I kinda already knew that, Truth behind "fancy scales" or "Modes" or the "names" can be quite simple. It was kinda shocking to understand that ive played

C major
A melodic minor
D Dorian
E Phrygian
F Lydian
G Mixolydian
A Aeolian
B locrian

and if that was not enough, there come...

G dominant 7th
C ethiopian
b half diminished (locrian)
e neopolitan minor

and...

A natural (pure) minor

... ... ... ... ... well, for sure while I played I dont even remembered the names of those fancy names... actually, I found the whole case yet again very refreshing. Thanks m8 :)
Guitarslinger124  
26 Feb 2012 18:48 | Quote
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MoshZilla1016 says:
Amin9


Different from AmADD9.



Am9 = 1 b3 5 b7 9

AmADD9 = 1 b3 5 9


When you see a chord name followed directly by a number, that almost always implies a dominant chord. The formula for a dominant chord is usually gonna be: 1 3 5 b7.

You have to be careful not to get the two confused. Dominant chords retain a totally different tonality than "normal" chords. Dominant chords are used to resolve to another tone. That is why they are commonly used in Jazz music.




What program are you using for those guitar necks?

Rock on!
MoshZilla1016  
26 Feb 2012 19:11 | Quote
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Yeah man, thanks for correcting. I caught it was an add9 with my first explaination "you can do what the chord name suggest and ADD 9".
I just screwed up when I said the G Pent plays over the Amin9. Either way both scales still have the b7. But good catch man, don't want to confuse anyone.
This is how I do my AmAdd9

-7-
-5-
-5-
-7-


I made the guitar with Paint. I made a master copy (JPG) then add the dots as needed. I use these a lot in my lessons.
Guitarslinger124  
26 Feb 2012 19:35 | Quote
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Sorry if I sounded like a douche. I didn't bother reading into your examples because I didn't doubt your answers. That just stood out to me, so I said something.

That's a good idea. I never even thought of using paint.

Rock on!
MoshZilla1016  
26 Feb 2012 19:42 | Quote
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Hey man no problem. I actually don't mind corrections. Keeps me on my toes.
I'm doing a lesson on CAGED and the relation to the Pentatonic boxes. The guitar necks will show how each pattern overlaps the other. I can't get this result with tabs.
pxm  
10 Jun 2012 11:50 | Quote
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I often use the 9 to minor chords when Im playing the orinary blues scale over it. It sound great.
Try to play the A blues scale over this chord and Ill think you will be delighted.

Paxom.


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