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How do drugs affect songwriting?

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case211  
2 Oct 2011 13:07 | Quote
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wafflesyrup says:
I just like to think we can live in a world where people can experience life together instead of pushing each other away.


it would be nice, but I don't think that is going to happen in our lifetime. Then again, I'm rather cynical about humanity in general.
btimm  
2 Oct 2011 13:41 | Quote
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waffle, I misread what you wrote, I apologize for that.

case211 says:
it would be nice, but I don't think that is going to happen in our lifetime. Then again, I'm rather cynical about humanity in general.


I agree it would be nice and that it won't happen. It never has in the past, why will it all of the sudden change? Pretty sad imo.
Reinhardt  
3 Oct 2011 06:19 | Quote
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i personally just think people should be open minded to other people's opinions and not close themselves off...
hazytoker  
3 Oct 2011 07:35 | Quote
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im an advocate of prescription cannabis for therapeutic purposes, hit the vape every few hrs, not able to get high on daily meds..just calm, focused and productive. shooting up years ago did nothing for my songwriting, during that time experiences did inspire music. dope was just part of life, no big deal. those experiences would have happened regardless.

i got straight edge cuz eventually drugs in general stopped working on me :(

macandkanga  
3 Oct 2011 10:11 | Quote
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HA! hazytoker and Wafflesyrup, I thinks its funny and ironic how both your avatars are labeled "USER".
gshredder2112  
3 Oct 2011 12:58 | Quote
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@mac Muhahaha" Thats hilarious.

@Reindhart +1
V3N0M3333  
5 Oct 2011 06:48 | Quote
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case211 says:
Then again, I'm rather cynical about humanity in general.


you and me both, dude.
hazytoker  
5 Oct 2011 09:17 | Quote
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macandkanga says:
HA! hazytoker and Wafflesyrup, I thinks its funny and ironic how both your avatars are labeled "USER".


yes, i'm a user. i take medicine that works for me, same as always. i don't get "high" (aka side effects!). you don't swallow a bottle of OTC meds ... you use as directed. so why does cannabis, methamphetamine, etc., make you behave irresponsibly? ... Makes me wish drug dealers would consider some form of child-proofing sigh

self-imposed limitation here is failure to make important distinction for recreational use, which is really just plain substance abuse. no respect for that
case211  
5 Oct 2011 09:51 | Quote
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hazytoker says:
recreational use, which is really just plain substance abuse. no respect for that


You make a good point, but it will also go with anyone who's ever had an alcoholic drink that wasn't prescribed by a doctor. I smoke technically recreational, but that's because medical cannabis cards are $200 that I don't have and could use elsewhere. See, I have a genetic disposition to be fairly anxious most of the time, however THC and Cannabinoids help with that greatly.
So, am I justifying my actions? Somewhat, but there really is no need to.
To each his own \m/

macandkanga  
5 Oct 2011 12:18 | Quote
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@case211, I think we are all anxious these days. I also think we all are a little OCD, hyper, depressed, and so on. Not to say that some people really suffer from these things. Whether you really do or don't is not the issue. It's about choice, responsibility and accountability. The people that I know that use in a responsible way control it and enjoy it. But for me, when I was controlling it, I was not enjoying it. And when I was enjoying it, I was not controlling it.

Now days when someone asks me why I don't drink or smoke pot I just say I'm allergic. I break out in hand-cuffs!
case211  
5 Oct 2011 12:22 | Quote
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Agreed man, I don't think it's avoidable.

But yeah, I'm in the first category there haha It helps me out with a lot of things.

That's pretty funny though man haha You are a rock star! haha
gshredder2112  
5 Oct 2011 12:35 | Quote
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If it grows from the earth how can you impose
restrictions on it? Tabbacco requires no prescription
its an addictive substance,It grows from the Earth
naturally,AND the add tar and other additives.
And has no medical value whatsoever,AND is recreational
use only.

Beer Is a brewed plant(hops) Its legal,its used for recreational use
it has no medical value,Its addictive,ever heard of AA?

Marijuana is a plant. Its smoked just like cigarettes.
It has no additives,no physical addictive properties.
It HAS medical value apperently since medical
marijuana cards are issued.Its presctibed for glaucoma, ancer
and a number of other conditions.
AND ITS ILLEGAL?!

that just baffles me......
case211  
5 Oct 2011 13:01 | Quote
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The Mesa PD here in Arizona voted on the legalization of medical: 90% for the legalization of medical mary jane, 10% against. That's the cops!
A lot of people I think are starting to get tired of the nagging stoner arguments XD haha
macandkanga  
5 Oct 2011 18:54 | Quote
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Yeah. It's all BS. I went to the dentist today and had some fillings re-done. He said I'm grinding my teeth at night. I ask what causes that. He said stress. Then he wrote me a prescription for a muscle relaxer. He said take one every night before bed. It's 30 pills with two refills! It's basically a recipe for addiction. I told him no thanks.

I know I'm stressed. Stress is a naturaul reaction to a STRESSFUL LIFE! It will get easier as my kids get older and the economy gets better. I don't need a pill. I will get a dental guard instead.

But this is my point: Why is it ok that pharmaceutical companies employ doctors and denstists and such to deal their drugs and get us addicted? Because it's regulated? Not really. I can get whatever I want from a doctor or dentist. I don't even try and they offer it to me! If it were 20 years ago, I would be so loaded by now that I wouldn't be able to write!

It's control. Anyone can grow weed and it makes us happy. If I'm happy, I don't grind my teeth, my dentist/dealer and Watson can't sell me drugs!
btimm  
5 Oct 2011 19:20 | Quote
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gshredder2112 says:
If it grows from the earth how can you impose
restrictions on it? Tabbacco requires no prescription
its an addictive substance,It grows from the Earth
naturally,AND the add tar and other additives.
And has no medical value whatsoever,AND is recreational
use only.

Beer Is a brewed plant(hops) Its legal,its used for recreational use
it has no medical value,Its addictive,ever heard of AA?

Marijuana is a plant. Its smoked just like cigarettes.
It has no additives,no physical addictive properties.
It HAS medical value apperently since medical
marijuana cards are issued.Its presctibed for glaucoma, ancer
and a number of other conditions.
AND ITS ILLEGAL?!

that just baffles me......


I agree with you about the hypocrisy of the laws regarding marijuana with respect to tobacco and alcohol. I just wanted to point out one error (I think) and one ou conveniently failed to mention. First, tobacco is not addictive that I know of. THe nicotene they put into tobacco is addictive, which would make cigarettes one of the most evil things in the world. Also, you failed to mention opiates. It is natural to the earth and is highly addictive. In fact, opiates were even used as a war tactic in the past. It's difficult to fight a war when you are going through withdrawal symptoms. Now THAT is messed up.
gshredder2112  
5 Oct 2011 20:18 | Quote
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@btimm Are opiates manufactured with any synthesis??
Like heroine and opium.

And If we were too smoke fresh(unadded)tabbaco it wouldn't
be addictive Like native americans did.



case211  
5 Oct 2011 20:21 | Quote
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actually guys, nicotine is present in tobacco in it's natural form.
telecrater  
6 Oct 2011 01:38 | Quote
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I read the first post and skipped everything else.

I think all drugs will expand your creativity. The only question I have is will you remember? Will you be able to reproduce that moment of awesomeness or will you need to get ripped again in order to do so.

Intoxication give you a false scene of things, confidence, creativity, hottness haha. It will make you attempt to do things you would otherwise not attempt. I think it's probably because your thinking to much, you got to play that guitar with your heart not your brain.

I got high everyday for 5 years then stopped, no meth, no weed, no booze nothing. After a few months I found out everything became clearer, and I got smart.

I am in no way saying do it or don't. Just remember if your reason for getting high is for creativity then do it but don't use creativity as your crunch for getting high.

BrandiQuiksilver  
6 Jan 2012 21:53 | Quote
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where i live, its a weed n seed community
devilchild  
9 Jan 2012 11:15 | Quote
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I think that although drugs are bad for you, anything you do in life is inspiration.
case211  
9 Jan 2012 11:56 | Quote
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@Brandi

Where is this magical land you speak of?! XD

To add to this topic though-I don't think that me smoking a bowl makes me a better songwriter per se, but I think it lifts the stigma that I tend to have when riffing. I try things out that I normally would avoid-and that is where genius is found. Riffs that I do when sober tend to be a little stale and regurgitated from other riffs I have. However I tend to forget about these riffs when I'm baked so I make up new ones. haha
V3N0M3333  
10 Jan 2012 10:28 | Quote
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telecrater says:
I think all drugs will expand your creativity. The only question I have is will you remember? Will you be able to reproduce that moment of awesomeness or will you need to get ripped again in order to do so.


when me and my cousin smoke(weed), we will come up with a whole song and record it right there if we are around equipment, if not, we record with our mouths on his phone lol....and its pretty accurate.
Walkwithme  
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okay im not bashing drugs or nothin, but yall seriously shouldnt be posting on the INTERNET that you smoke pot. like seriously. the fbi is crawling all over the internet and they can get ur IP adress from ur posts and find u.. just saying.
nullnaught  
9 Feb 2012 21:58 | Quote
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its perfectly legal for a lot of us to smoke pot.
btimm  
9 Feb 2012 22:31 | Quote
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Also, the FBI isn't going to search the internet for some pot smoker, that just isn't happening.
Empirism  
10 Feb 2012 00:39 | Quote
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:D, I couldnt agree more with Btimm... you now m8, these days in every institutions, companies and even a police department have far too few worker resources than there should be. Chasing some invidual for pot or EVEN growing the Pot its waste of time and waste of those few resources. To get someone busted for a handful of pot? They dont get medals for it XD...and... I think that FBI is kind of an gang that leave those minor problems to police... even I know United States things just from movies XD, but still... FBI? no way :D.

Emp

btw, what if FBI get MY ip address? Is there goin to be some men in black on my door in Finland? Um... I dont think so and its really best for them to stay off MY door hahhah...
Guitarslinger124  
10 Feb 2012 08:47 | Quote
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Walkwithme says:
okay im not bashing drugs or nothin, but yall seriously shouldnt be posting on the INTERNET that you smoke pot. like seriously. the fbi is crawling all over the internet and they can get ur IP adress from ur posts and find u.. just saying.


You need to be busted with possession as far as I know. I can walk into a police station, say I smoke pot and walk out free as a bird.
tinyskateboard  
10 Feb 2012 10:18 | Quote
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If you have a medical prescription card, the federal govt still wants to bust you. But they won't go out of their way for a small fish.
DanielM  
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Guitarslinger124 says:
You need to be busted with possession as far as I know. I can walk into a police station, say I smoke pot and walk out free as a bird.


Don't know about in general but in England police mostly have no way of testing if you are high, you could go up to a policeman high as a kite and tell him so and if you weren't guilty of possession they couldn't make anything stick. Worst you could get would be made to sleep it off in a cell if you are deemed incapable of looking after yourself.

Also the FBI have more important things to monitor like terrorism...
gshredder2112  
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@walkwithme Thanks for the advice man,but if the FBI has nothing better to do than troll online for pot smokers and drug users,that arent selling on a mass scale, that would be a sad day for America.

Look what prohibition did to the U.S. in the 20's they banned liquor
and look what happened, it caused people to feel not so bad about breaking the law cause they felt they were being oppressed. Oppression causes rebellion and problems. If drugs were legal,I could go to t5he store and buy them, rather than risk my life buying from a dealer and such. It would put a damper on alot of gang activity,clean up alot of prisons, save potential anti drug agents lives, And I think if it was legalized,it would take some of the fun out of it, and less people would do it anyway. Beside people are going to do it wether anyone approves or not. Kinda like cigarettes and prohibition.
Its just the way things are.
Walkwithme  
12 Feb 2012 17:35 | Quote
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haha okay sorry guys it was just my opinion. i didnt know. haha yall are right my bad.
btimm  
12 Feb 2012 19:14 | Quote
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@ gs2112: Bottom line: If it was more profitable for drugs such as marijuana to be legal, it would have happened already. The government is many things (insert your adjective here), but stupid usually isnt one of them. Chances are very high in the US that more money is made from having the drugs remain illegal. Also, the response to prohibition was that it was legal and was then made illegal. You will see significantly less outcry over drugs because it isn't considered socially acceptable.
gshredder2112  
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@Btimm The government isnt exactly stupid, but arent exctly the smartest folks either. I mean look at our national debt.

And in response to your post about my post about marijuana
WIkipedia had a very interesting article about When mJ was made illegal and why.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States


I suppose it did have something to do with profit and taxes
but ill let you read and decide.
Duff  
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I used like every drug on the face of the planet , but no meth and no prescription drugs . I think those 2 are for rednecks no ofense . I even had a problem with coke and with alcohol ! but i kicked it ! A lot of my songs are based on drugs experience . The lyrics and the instrumental !!! so yeah !!! Drugs had a lot of impact on my musical compositions ! Peace
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