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Mezzie  
21 Sep 2011 13:01 | Quote
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So yesterday i wanted to learn something new and so i wanted to learn how to sweep pick arpeggios. And i'm having some trouble. I'm so used to alternate picking i cannot get out of this habit and am struggling to learn how to sweep pick. Instead of this:

d u u d d d d u u
e|--19p15----------------15h19p15--------|
b|--------17----------17----------17-----|
g|-----------16----16----------------16--|
d|--------------15-----------------------|
a|---------------------------------------|
e|---------------------------------------|
I play something like this

d u d d d u u u d
e|--19p15----------------15h19p15--------|
b|--------17----------17----------17-----|
g|-----------16----16----------------16--|
d|--------------15-----------------------|
a|---------------------------------------|
e|---------------------------------------|


Any tips? Or any sites that can help me learn these better?
gshredder2112  
21 Sep 2011 13:19 | Quote
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d u u u d d d u u u u
E-19p-15-----------15---------
B-------17------17----17------
G---------16--16---------16---
D-----------15--------------16
A
E

Try that mezzie.
Mezzie  
21 Sep 2011 13:24 | Quote
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oh i'm sorry. i didn't realize the space was wrong... how did you fix it?
case211  
21 Sep 2011 14:49 | Quote
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I had the same problem when I wanted to start learning sweeping.

What I found that helped was slowing down and forcing myself to really roll the upstrokes. I still have to do that to keep my chops in line but strangely enough I usually find myself skipping the upstrokes completely most of the time now, which is cool because it sounds cleaner than when I do use upstrokes... They're a pain but boneheaded repition is the best way to go about it IMO.
Good luck man

Also this:


e-19p15----------15h19----
B------17------17---------
D--------16--16-----------
G----------17-------------
A-------------------------
E-------------------------

is one of the coolest 4 string patterns ever. Good ol' E Minor ;)
MoshZilla1016  
21 Sep 2011 15:46 | Quote
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Another thing that's cool about these types of arps is that one arp can be used over different chords. Look at Case's arp. It can be used for Eminor...Gadd6...and CMajor7. So by learning a few patterns you can cover a lot of possibilities. Good luck Mezzie
Mezzie  
23 Sep 2011 12:48 | Quote
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Thanks guys, i'm really getting the hang of it, pretty fast actually. One thing i notice though is that when i'm playing some of the arps take E minor for example the G string rings a bit when i release it. Any Advice?
case211  
23 Sep 2011 13:05 | Quote
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Learn to mute it with the finger you fret it with. You can use your picking hand, but I've found that it throws my pick into a very difficult spot for my sweeping technique. So I've learned how to use my fingers on my fretting hand to mute strings, this is a very importat part of playing cleanly as well.
gshredder2112  
24 Sep 2011 02:37 | Quote
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Ftw...my tab was mezzies arpeggio,using the
correct strokes..
Mezzie  
24 Sep 2011 07:25 | Quote
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I'm really getting these down, i'm still getting that ring on some of the arpeggios though... but i'm sure i'll figure that out. They are really fun! i really enjoy playing the diminished and Dim7 arp... creepy, but cool. i have to get better at switching between arpeggios also... Thanks guys
MoshZilla1016  
24 Sep 2011 15:23 | Quote
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Mezzie's arpeggio is an Emb2 or G7add6.
gshredder2112  
24 Sep 2011 15:43 | Quote
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@mosh b2? Wouldnt the b2 of a minor scale(since it
starts with a HS) Be the root? Jw
MoshZilla1016  
24 Sep 2011 16:27 | Quote
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Think of it this way, if you take an Emin Chord


e--7
B--8
G--9
D--9
A--7
E---

If only the top four strings are used


e--7
B--8
G--9
D--9

it's still an Emin. The upper has 2 root notes (A-7, G-9)the lower has 1(G-9) but it's still the root.
Mezzie's arp is only using the top four strings so the root is the 17th fret of the B string. The b2(b9) is just an extension of the chord. It does not become the root but may be considered the bass note...Em/F but don't play a HS apart, the arp plays 12 HS apart. This arp is similar to the Phrygian scale.
gshredder2112  
24 Sep 2011 17:01 | Quote
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Oh.So basically,its an octave of the root,which changes the inversion
and the overall chord? I never got slash chords so well.
MoshZilla1016  
24 Sep 2011 17:36 | Quote
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Not an octave of the root. The root is E. The b2(b9) is F. It's just the b2-F is played lower than the root E. A slash chord is just a chord that the lowest note played is not the root. Lets say C/E. Left of the slash is the chord. Right of the slash is the bass note. Can be played like this...


e--8------------12
B--5----8-------13
G--5----9-------12
D--5----10------14
A--7----7-------
E--

It gives the chord a different voice instead of having the root as the bass. The bass guitar will play the note on the right of the slash.
If you were to play Mezzies arp as a chord Em/F this would be some of the possibilities.


e---3------12
B---5--8---12
G---4--9---12
D---3--9---15
A------8---
E----------

gshredder2112  
24 Sep 2011 17:50 | Quote
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You are correct mosh. I wasnt thinking in term
of scale values,I was thinkin something else.
Scatrerbrained today lol,thanks for the heads up,yiu should
do a lesson on slash chords
Mezzie  
25 Sep 2011 15:16 | Quote
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Sorry guys, my original tab was suppose to be just a regular Em arpeggio but for some reason i wrote 15 instead of 17, sorry for the confusion... i did learn something new though... thanks a lot Mosh


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