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gshredder2112  
23 Apr 2011 11:46 | Quote
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YAY! tis my 1000th post.So heres a toast to the #1 guitar forum around! now for the question.

*tab or standard notation?*

p.s im.going.to be gone for a week or so some.plaese pm your question of the day suggestion tonullnaught
luthier  
23 Apr 2011 12:03 | Quote
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Tab
gshredder2112  
23 Apr 2011 12:13 | Quote
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tabs for.now....
nullnaught  
23 Apr 2011 17:01 | Quote
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i like standard. But tabs are findable on the internet and free.

Unless theres a website like ultimate guitar or songster that has standard that i dont know about.
coleman  
23 Apr 2011 21:32 | Quote
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standard notation. sometimes its ok with a tab under it but i don't really like them.
MoshZilla1016  
23 Apr 2011 21:40 | Quote
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Tab but only because I can't read standard. If I could I would possibly never use tab again. Since most tabs are not 100% correct I rely a lot on the ears.
nullnaught  
24 Apr 2011 02:01 | Quote
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Tabs are totaly easy to find FREE on the internet.
coleman  
24 Apr 2011 21:30 | Quote
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i feel its really important to be able to read
BodomBeachTerror  
24 Apr 2011 21:34 | Quote
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MoshZilla1016 says:
Since most tabs are not 100% correct I rely a lot on the ears.


I find it odd how people always say this, but notation is all done by ear too.
nullnaught  
24 Apr 2011 22:02 | Quote
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Notation has the timing. Like how long to play the notes.
AlexB  
24 Apr 2011 22:09 | Quote
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Guitar pro
Domigan_Lefty  
25 Apr 2011 05:10 | Quote
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Tabs and standard are both set by ear, so if a tab Can be wrong, then standard can be wrong too...

I prefer tab, because I just need a quick glance to pick up on where I left off if I get lost. With standard you need to read the note, find them on the neck, and decide which string to play on.
harleyofdoom  
25 Apr 2011 09:05 | Quote
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I'm trying to learn standard notation because unless you play a fretted stringed instrument tabs mean nothing. i actually think using tabs too much can be detrimental to developing good musical practice in the sense that it forces you to think of fret numbers before note names which muddies the water when your trying to explain a melody to another musician.
Also I just want to say that 1000 posts in less than a year is ridiculous, can you honestly tell me that each one of those was a pertinent question or a relevant comment?
MoshZilla1016  
25 Apr 2011 09:37 | Quote
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@BBT You are correct. I should have explained more why I gave that answer. I DO USE TAB but if I could read standard I would use it since standard has more info (rest, note values..etc). Tab is just numbers on a line no feel for the passage being played. That's why I rely on the ears. For ME tab and standard do nothing without ME first hearing the song to get the rhythm, melody, leads and everything else in my head to have the ability to play it correctly. The licks section on this site would be much better if all licks would include a sound file. Without it I have no idea how the lick is to be played,it's just numbers on lines.
I use tab when I find a piece that's above my playing level. But relying on tab alone would leave me lost. As far as tab not being 100% correct, that sounds stronger than I intended. Most of a single tab will be right but you may find just a few notes that are off. That's when the ears kick in to identify the wrong notes.
This is just my feelings on the subject.
gshredder2112  
25 Apr 2011 12:06 | Quote
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@harleyofdoom wow um noope. I dont know why it matters,but this right here will.probably be my last post anyway.so.no need to find it ridiculous.

-Jake
JazzMaverick  
25 Apr 2011 14:40 | Quote
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@ Harley, so true man! Because tabs are numbers it becomes even more difficult for that learner to understand theory. They have such a hard time trying to understand the complete basics like What notes go into a certain key, scale or even a chord! That's exactly why notation is soooo important. And people who are learning tabs are completely and utterly limited!

As for the 1000th post thing, most of my posts weren't exactly necessary, or educational, too. We become a family on here, so talking about random crap is occasionally nice! :)

I'm a 100% notation fan! :)
nullnaught  
25 Apr 2011 14:47 | Quote
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@ harley- That comment about 1000 posts is offensive.
BodomBeachTerror  
25 Apr 2011 14:51 | Quote
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harleyofdoom says:
Also I just want to say that 1000 posts in less than a year is ridiculous


Ive got 3825 posts in 3 years. that calculates to average of 1275 posts per year (not including the posts from now to 27th of may)
nullnaught  
25 Apr 2011 14:53 | Quote
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1254 posts in less than 11 months.
gshredder2112  
25 Apr 2011 14:54 | Quote
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I have been here 6 months.
Empirism  
25 Apr 2011 15:39 | Quote
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1600 posts since 2008 here... LOL. But im not so active ;D
coleman  
25 Apr 2011 15:48 | Quote
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so true jazz! also if you want to audition for a school you will be asked to site read. it can be slow at first but its a crucial skill for a serious musician.
JazzMaverick  
25 Apr 2011 16:45 | Quote
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Exactly! Can you sight read fluently Coleman?

It's hard work when you're self taught, but sooo damn important.

Most of the books I have are in notation, so I forced myself to learn it. Hard stuff - I could play to an averaged tempo piece, but not as fluently on a fast piece as I would like to. (I'm only human!)
nullnaught  
25 Apr 2011 16:53 | Quote
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People who preffer tabs usually arent good at sight reading notation. But the big plus about tabs is that they are findable on the internet while notation is not.
Crash171  
25 Apr 2011 18:06 | Quote
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Tab all the way. I have to think when I look at standard notation. And I dont like to think when I play. It makes me sound like a noob.
macandkanga  
25 Apr 2011 18:55 | Quote
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I have used tab long enough now that standard notation has become unusable for me. I never had the time or a real desire to learn notation. However, if it got in the way of me being personally successful as a musician, I would have taken the time. And no, I am not limited because I can't read notation. There are plenty of successful blind musicians who can't read either.

Also, gshredder2112 keeps this forum lively and fun to be a part of. I like his questions and thoughts AND he always has POSOTIVE things to say. So what if he says them a lot!
btimm  
25 Apr 2011 18:56 | Quote
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@ jazzy

You wrote on some post about the English language. I wanted to share a story I find amusing with you (and the site). It may be a common expression in the UK, I am not sure, but it was hilarious to me nevertheless. A good friend of mine, from Derbyshire, once told me that I speak a ***ized version of English called American. I am not sure why that was so funny to me, but it still makes me laugh to this day. :o)
gshredder2112  
25 Apr 2011 19:19 | Quote
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@mac Thanks for the kind words dude,means alot.
\M/(*-*)\M/

-gs2112
btimm  
25 Apr 2011 20:51 | Quote
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***ized is
b a s t a r d i z e d

Surprised that gets bleeped.
gshredder2112  
25 Apr 2011 21:02 | Quote
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lol^^ me to i know ** and * get bleedped so i cant say ** dale or bruce **inson.
coleman  
26 Apr 2011 00:54 | Quote
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it depends on how fast the piece is and how complex rhythmically and harmonically it is. but i can read pretty simple stuff fluently, it still takes me a min or so to figure out most real book tunes.
coleman  
26 Apr 2011 00:56 | Quote
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i can actually site read better on piano. although im not much of a pianist, its just the way the notes are laid out simpler than a fretboard.
BodomBeachTerror  
26 Apr 2011 00:58 | Quote
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Tab or standard notation? my answer?



Chord sheets
nullnaught  
26 Apr 2011 01:29 | Quote
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@ coleman I agrree. The piano is laid out in a way you can know what the notes are very easily. I learned piano well before i learned guitar.
JazzMaverick  
26 Apr 2011 10:39 | Quote
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Strangely enough I can play guitar better than I can on piano! I see the positions better on guitar. o.O

BTimm - haha! I know dude, I have some cousins who are American, and he came over here and said something about a story then said "That's because we speak American." I died of laughter :) The language is called English - but even in England there are multiple variations of how you say certain things!

"ain't that true" = "init"
"that's great" = "that's sick!"
"I thought you held a good fight" = "I fout you beefed 'im up well good blad"

:)

macandkanga  
26 Apr 2011 10:57 | Quote
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@gshredder,

No worries mate! Or, Is all in da mix. Or, No problem man.

I misspelled "positive" in all caps! Ha! I hate when I do that.
gshredder2112  
26 Apr 2011 11:05 | Quote
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Haha! s'all good mac.
MoshZilla1016  
26 Apr 2011 11:39 | Quote
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gshredder2112 says:
@harleyofdoom wow um noope. I dont know why it matters,but this right here will.probably be my last post anyway.so.no need to find it ridiculous.

-Jake

I was gonna say goodbye but.......

gshredder2112 says:
I have been here 6 months.



gshredder2112 says:
@mac Thanks for the kind words dude,means alot.
M/(*-*)M/

-gs2112

gshredder2112 says:
lol^^ me to i know ** and * get bleedped so i cant say ** dale or bruce **inson.

gshredder2112 says:
Haha! s'all good mac.

I see you can't resist the powers of the darkside. ;)
Stick around man, you're a good accessory for this well oiled machine.
Plus most of my post are random crap but I ain't forcin no one to read 'em.
Notim  
26 Apr 2011 12:10 | Quote
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I liked what jazz said, by were kinda like a family here.....and I put some stupid things up and I'm still here, I guess I'm like the stupid cousin sometimes....lol but at least I dont try and be something I not and I dont think Shred does either so......I think if you want to post something that seems important to you then go ahead.....who are we to judge anyone, and I say Tabs all the way, but notation is the best, I wish I would have taken the time to learn notation, but getting old and senile like phip(lol)(jokin buddie), I would forget what I learned anyway.
tinyskateboard  
27 Apr 2011 13:41 | Quote
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Mostly chords for me, I guess I'm a rhythym guitarist...so far.


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