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FromSweden  
16 Jan 2011 10:44 | Quote
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I hate Jesus and all religion overall.

How about you?
case211  
16 Jan 2011 11:15 | Quote
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...I'm not really a religious person(more spiritual) but is this entirely necessary? I mean to each his own, but I don't think that this needs to be shared here...
ChicagoMedic  
16 Jan 2011 11:19 | Quote
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posting this is pretty meaningless. I smell troll
DarkRiff  
16 Jan 2011 12:16 | Quote
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I agree with Case,
This is a completely pointless post. It's pretty much just starting a fight. (If you can call it a fight online).
Schecter_player  
16 Jan 2011 12:19 | Quote
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Wow. That's ridiculously offensive. Way to be.
Empirism  
16 Jan 2011 12:33 | Quote
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Interesting. Hate to some subject that I assume you never met personally or even know a history enough to know what subject you hate anyway and then you hate religion overall... what religion, do you hate all religion? are you ateist?...aaa you cant be ateist either, because if you hate Jesus, you prove that you believe Jesus exist, because you hate it.

Therefore, I wonder what did Jesus Did that you hate him and lead you to hate religion overall, I assume that there are two possibilities, you hate Jesus because he never did anything to your good or... you hate him because you dont understand him (that leads to fear factor in mind actually) when you post it to some forums to seek desperately other people who fear or...hate like you say too. But sadly no sanctuary here m8, you have to face it to yourself.

But first, you should make clear to yourself atleast, what are you hating anyway...because I believe you dont know it well enough. Do you know that satanists are religious people? they have to be if they believe lucifer.

Well, religion do most of the time good things to people (yes we know history that not always), but I know personally dozen people who actually live today because of church and some kind priests that understood their suffering and tried help them without any personal interests. If that is the thing why I should hate religion overall, is kinda stupid. And I believe you know it too. Since in this forum like in people overall, have people who are religious and believe god, those who not and those who hope that they could believe.

So to honor those people, I hope this thread is goin to deleted (and actually I know that will happen anyway) And you m8, learn a lesson. You have right to your own opinion, but please think about the situation and subject next time little longer.

Nothing personal m8
Emp
BodomBeachTerror  
16 Jan 2011 13:37 | Quote
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deeeleeete
MoshZilla1016  
16 Jan 2011 13:57 | Quote
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Don't be too hard on him. I've been Christain for about 20 years and I hate Satan. BUT I'M NOT GONNA BASH HIM ON A GUITAR FORUM!!!!
btimm  
16 Jan 2011 14:23 | Quote
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This type of thread being started warrants far more than a thread deletion, it needs to have OP banned. Not because of his beliefs, but because he makes a post that has a sole intent to anger and incite people and take away from the great community of AGC.
wannabeguitarist  
16 Jan 2011 14:45 | Quote
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Empirism says:
Copy and Paste quote here!


thank u for sticking up for all the christians on agc forums
gshredder2112  
16 Jan 2011 15:05 | Quote
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wow that c#un! is blatant he shall burn that is all...
AlexB  
16 Jan 2011 15:23 | Quote
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I hate sweden
Admiral  
16 Jan 2011 15:35 | Quote
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Its actually interesting to see all the reactions!
He did not insult anyone actually:

FromSweden says:

I hate Jesus and all religion overall.

How about you?


Other people started to be offensive:
gshredder2112 says:
wow that c#un! is blatant he shall burn that is all...


And as Case totally correctly said:
case211 says:
I mean to each his own


So actually, seeing as hate being the opposite of love..saying that "I love God" must be surely equally as offensive to someone who doesn't believe in god?

How about you?

gshredder2112  
16 Jan 2011 15:42 | Quote
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you see this is how evil spreads and why admiral is correct i shouldnt have been offensive.but when someone says they hate something i like i somehow feel the need to defend it,he said hated jesus and religion,but i love jesus and religion,its kinda like somebody insulting your mother,you love her but someone else hates her and insults her,so i guess you would feel obliged too defend her? no?
nullnaught  
16 Jan 2011 15:54 | Quote
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im an athiest but i think jesus said a lot of great things.
Admiral  
16 Jan 2011 15:58 | Quote
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gshredder2112 says:
kinda like somebody insulting your mother,you love her but someone else hates her and insults her


That is an interesting point..I am using my mother as an example in order to not offend anyone here (haha)..I also love my mother, but imagine the situation that one day, she drove a car when she was drunk and drove over your little son (imagining we we were all parents)..
If I would be the father of that little boy, I would probably do anything but love this woman who killed him.
What would you do? Would you not understand the father who "hates" your mother?

Of course, this is a highly hypothetical scenario, but it could well be. And If we apply the whole thing to religion, I do seriously not want to know how many people have been harmed by religion (actually not religion itself, more the people itself) over the last few thousands of years.

I just want to make sure that I think this thread is not really necessary, and I wouldn't have answered to it, if it wouldnt have been for all the reactions. But the whole situation is actually quite interesting. And I do not intend to offend anyone in their religious freedom here if anyone should feel insulted.
nullnaught  
16 Jan 2011 16:30 | Quote
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@FromSweden...Can you let us all know what is it about Jesus you hate.
Ozzfan486  
16 Jan 2011 17:15 | Quote
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I hate meatballs.
gshredder2112  
16 Jan 2011 18:14 | Quote
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i think ozzfan486 makes the most sense of all.
Schecter_player  
16 Jan 2011 18:15 | Quote
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I love guitar....
MoshZilla1016  
16 Jan 2011 18:19 | Quote
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Admiral says:
Its actually interesting to see all the reactions!
He did not insult anyone actually:
Admiral you are 100% correct. As I said, I am Christian but Sweden's comment did not bother me. I believe everyone has the right to believe whatever they want. I would rather people not post their opinions HERE. I come here to learn and discuss mainly musical issues. I would never try to preach to anyone but I don't want my beliefs to be shot down either. If you look at Sweden's topics I have helped answer some of his questions and would still do the same no matter what different views we hold.
gshredder2112  
16 Jan 2011 18:22 | Quote
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moshzilla is rightest....we are all brothers and musicians and should support each other regardless of anything
Phip  
16 Jan 2011 18:24 | Quote
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Tolerance is a two way street.
As others have said, this is probably not the best chosen subject for a guitar forum but it's not the first or last time that unusual subjects will come up.
As for me; I will exercise my option to ignore this thread.
Phip
BodomBeachTerror  
16 Jan 2011 18:27 | Quote
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yeah i agree with Mosh, although i was slightly offended. i mean you can't just suddenly out of the blue say you hate something without giving any reasons why.

now i'm sure if for some reason you want to talk about it, i'm sure some of us (or your mom?) would be happy to discuss it, over PM or email, not on here.
gshredder2112  
16 Jan 2011 18:30 | Quote
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lol this topic i starting to sound like a love letter from marilyn manson
btimm  
16 Jan 2011 19:02 | Quote
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I don't like when people make threads to try and start trouble, so everyone should have found this offensive. Not because of the content (although that bothered me some), but because of what it does to this forum. And it's not positive.
gshredder2112  
16 Jan 2011 19:07 | Quote
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mmhm
nullnaught  
16 Jan 2011 19:45 | Quote
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i wish he or she would state why he hates jesus.
Ozzfan486  
16 Jan 2011 20:10 | Quote
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gshredder2112 says:
i think ozzfan486 makes the most sense of all.


For real bro. I mean, I'm not going to tell you WHY I hate meatballs, I just DO. End of story. And now I'm just going to leave, and let my comment stir up a bunch of trouble, like a REAL troll.
JustJeff  
16 Jan 2011 20:27 | Quote
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1. This post is stupid.
2. When someone can present reasonable evidence that jesus actually stepped foot on this earth, we can discuss this topic.
3. >.
btimm  
16 Jan 2011 20:52 | Quote
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Ozzfan486 says:
For real bro. I mean, I'm not going to tell you WHY I hate meatballs, I just DO. End of story. And now I'm just going to leave, and let my comment stir up a bunch of trouble, like a REAL troll.


That is insane. I find this more offensive than the original post!
EMB5490  
16 Jan 2011 20:56 | Quote
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There is no possible way this can possibly end well.
luthier  
16 Jan 2011 20:56 | Quote
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Completely uncalled for dude, or girl. Completely rediculous post.


And this.

nullnaught says:
i wish he or she would state why he hates jesus.
BodomBeachTerror  
16 Jan 2011 20:59 | Quote
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EMB5490 says:
There is no possible way this can possibly end well.


I know right? But i can't help but feel that this has happened before.

And i'm pretty sure Ozz was mocking the original post.
btimm  
16 Jan 2011 21:06 | Quote
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But how can you not like meatballs? That just seems so wrong to me.
BodomBeachTerror  
16 Jan 2011 21:11 | Quote
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oh, haha, i see what you mean
gshredder2112  
16 Jan 2011 21:12 | Quote
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muhahahahahahahahhaha
nullnaught  
16 Jan 2011 22:42 | Quote
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Is it wrong to ask why?
ChicagoMedic  
16 Jan 2011 22:50 | Quote
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MODS: this thread should just be deleted. Do we really want new prospects to the site to see this meaningless banter and deter them from coming here for the sites purpose--music?

Please delete this thread and ban the poster imo.
Empirism  
17 Jan 2011 00:38 | Quote
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Dun worry, it will be deleted, when mods come back, since i think there is just afro now.

And I think poster should not banned, he have to be right to his own opinions and right to do mistakes... like we all do.

Emp
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