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EMB5490  
21 Nov 2010 21:44 | Quote
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Hey all, im just curious, i got my ass kicked by a buncha friends (they just yelled at me jokingly) when we went out to a TGI Fridays and i couldnt eat anything because it wasnt vegitarian (or wheat/gluten free... but thats different)

ANyway im curious, do we have any if any vegitarian or vegan board members?

Im a veg, but im not going vegan, you lack too much essencial nutrients, I just buy organic, so i get rid of the animal abuse and the hormone infested animal products...


How bout you guys? I have a feeling ill be alone on this...
JustJeff  
21 Nov 2010 21:46 | Quote
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I'm italian. Enough said.
Mistaluke  
21 Nov 2010 23:48 | Quote
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I eat meat...
Sorry.
AlexB  
22 Nov 2010 00:16 | Quote
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Tacos and Burritos all the way
EMB5490  
22 Nov 2010 05:47 | Quote
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yep thought so...
jcb3000  
22 Nov 2010 08:40 | Quote
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I consider myself 90% carnivore. The rest is tastey fruit :D
Empirism  
22 Nov 2010 09:38 | Quote
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I like vegetarian stuff... as accompaniment. Rest I leave to rabbits.

BUT!

EMB5490 says:
I just buy organic, so i get rid of the animal abuse and the hormone infested animal products...!


There the good points.. We here in Finland have good supply of local meat (that here have very tight laws, how to treat animals and a stuff) If I buy Chicken eggs forexample, I pay little more that they are as we call "free chickens eggs", local supliers for meat are also not "mass production", but those cows graze free on our fields... you just have to look what to buy and pay little more, but I do that likely.

One thing is sure, human need a wide ranging food. Thats the fact. So, I think its not reasonable leave important elements away of our system.

In east, there are places, that you just cant grow anything and like one Buddhist monk said, Here you eat meat, or starve. Different point is if you respect the animal you eat, like natives did and Im sure those Buddhist do that too... so do I.

Empirism
Mistaluke  
22 Nov 2010 12:07 | Quote
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AlexB says:
Tacos and Burritos all the way

I laughed at that :)
but yeah i tried being a vegetarian but i failed within the weak.
my parents made meat on purpose i think.
macandkanga  
22 Nov 2010 15:31 | Quote
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Can't do the vegetarian thing. I understand its purpose but I am addicted to carne. MUST HAVE MEAT!
macandkanga  
22 Nov 2010 15:35 | Quote
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...And, why is it that there is a veggie version of all things meat? Veggie burger, hot dog, etc. If you're a vegetarin/vegan and you oppose eating meat why would you want your veggies to look and taste like meat? Makes no sense. I would never ask for a carrot that looks and taste like chicken.
tinyskateboard  
22 Nov 2010 17:36 | Quote
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It's spelled vegetarians. I'm a vegetarian cook. I've eaten no meat since I was born (1971) until lately. Now I will eat meat if someone I know has hunted it (duck, venison, halibut) and is serving it for dinner...mostly just to show respect for their staying close to the food. I will cook meat, gut fish and clean out chickens for my friends and family who are too grossed out to do it, yet they will happily eat meat. I firmly beleive in the concept of eating food grown within 100 miles of you when possible. I buy organic stuff for cheaper than the commercial stuff because I know which markets to go to for deals.

The original People in this area (the USA, near San Francisco)lived for many years without eating much or any meat. The native peoples would grow corn, which would give climbing support to the beans, and covering the ground are the squashes. Eaten together makes a complete protein. Meat is not imperative for our diets anymore.




Mistaluke  
22 Nov 2010 17:52 | Quote
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I personally understand hunting to eat but i dont understand hunting/killing for the joy.
Such as killing creatures for the fun of saying you did and not eating them.
Lol thats heartless to me.
btimm  
22 Nov 2010 18:00 | Quote
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I just think we have incisors for a reason and it's not to tear into broccoli. But to each their own, I'd never criticize another person fro not eating mean, I just don't understand it.

I do tend to eat much more chicken and turkey than beef though, but that is just because my wife can't digest red meat properly and it makes her throw it back up. Yum.
tinyskateboard  
22 Nov 2010 18:05 | Quote
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We have evolved to eat cooked meat I think. The incisors seem superfluous now.
DarkRiff  
22 Nov 2010 18:35 | Quote
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There are many reasons why I'm not a vegetarian.

I love meat
I really love meat
meat is something that I love.

Nothing like a philly cheesesteak, or a bleu cheese burger, or just a nice steak.
While I don't understand why some people are vegetarians, I won't criticize them. I find it silly, but it shows that they have good self control.
macandkanga  
22 Nov 2010 18:43 | Quote
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Jules: Mmm-mmmm. That is a tasty burger. Vincent, ever have a Big Kahuna Burger?
[Vincent shakes his head]
Jules: Wanna bite? They're real tasty.
Vincent: Ain't hungry.
Jules: Well, if you like burgers give 'em a try sometime. I can't usually get 'em myself because my girlfriend's a vegitarian which pretty much makes me a vegitarian. But I do love the taste of a good burger. Mm-mm-mm. You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
Brett: No.
Jules: Tell 'em, Vincent.
Vincent: A Royale with cheese.
Jules: A Royale with cheese! You know why they call it that?
Brett: Because of the metric system?
Jules: Check out the big brain on Brett! You're a smart mother***er. That's right. The metric system. What's in this?
Brett: Sprite.
Jules: Sprite, good. You mind if I have some of your tasty beverage to wash this down?
Brett: Go right ahead.
Jules: Ah, hit the spot.
EMB5490  
22 Nov 2010 19:00 | Quote
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...yep definatly the only one
Ozzfan486  
22 Nov 2010 19:03 | Quote
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Remember Heather? She is I think.

But anyway...


Yummeh.
EMB5490  
22 Nov 2010 20:13 | Quote
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Oh yeah... JAzz is sorta hippie... I wonder if she is...


Your eating a living breathing being. And most have awful lives stuck in jails its awful
Empirism  
23 Nov 2010 03:20 | Quote
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So milk, eggs and many other things too are exploited from living beings from jail eh?... so its important also what clothes you wear... list is quite long if you start to think... ever thought the meaning of life? Ever thought the fate?

Nice pic Ozz btw...

"In biology, an organism is any contiguous living system (such as animal, plant, fungus, or micro-organism). In at least some form, all organisms are capable of response to stimuli, reproduction, growth and development, and maintenance of homoeostasis as a stable whole. An organism may either be unicellular (single-celled) or be composed of, as in humans, many trillions of cells grouped into specialized tissues and organs. The term multicellular (many-celled) describes any organism made up of more than one cell."

Means that also plants are the living beings, so its good to know if they are "grown" properly... aight aight, Im too...

EMB5490  
23 Nov 2010 05:43 | Quote
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its the abuse of the animals i have a problem with. Which is why i eat organic mostly all the time
Admiral  
23 Nov 2010 16:36 | Quote
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DarkRiff says:

I love meat
I really love meat
meat is something that I love.


love is something that I meat.

+1
Notim  
23 Nov 2010 16:53 | Quote
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I eat meat every day of the week....
Mistaluke  
23 Nov 2010 17:02 | Quote
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EMB I find it awesome that your the type of person who can think for himself. Meaning I like the fact that everyone else is a carnivore but you still decide to go for whats right and be a vegetarian.
You my friend can think for yourself and doesnt need everyone elses opinion to decide for you.
tinyskateboard  
23 Nov 2010 17:50 | Quote
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It get easier to eat out vegi style if you do it for a while. I've been doing it all my life, and the only hard part is getting straight answers from servers about what has no beef stock or no chicken stock.

That said, TGIFridays really sucks for a vegetatian...I was there once with friends and I also could not eat a thing.
BodomBeachTerror  
23 Nov 2010 17:51 | Quote
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Notim says:
I eat meat every day of the week....


I think I eat meat every meal of the day every day of the week.. except the occasional occasion there isnt any
btimm  
23 Nov 2010 17:55 | Quote
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EMB you question the medical field's intents on many topics, and post things about Monsanto, etc. It's good that you think and try to stick to yoru principals. But i have a question for you. Why do you believe that when a company says it is organic, that they are actually telling the truth?

I will relate it to something I have knowledge of. When utility companies sell "green" electricity, it is just hogwash. The electricity is not spread out amongst the grid in specific portions, so they can't really dictate how you get your electricity. They know they get x% from "green" sources and therefore will sell x% as "green" electricity, but there is no way or truly knowing where you electricity came from. In fact, it is no different than if you didn't pay the premium!

Please don't take this the wrong way, as I am not trying to criticize you whatsoever, I am just curious why you believe the companies about what is organic and what is not organic.
macandkanga  
23 Nov 2010 18:17 | Quote
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Vegetarian, I understand. Vegan, I don't. Organic, I understand and actually like the idea. I just don't trust big business. The organic industry has grown on average at about 20% a year. The USDA regulates "organic". Organic can have up to 5% by weight non-organic ingredients. The number of non-organic ingredients approved by both the Organic Trade Association and the USDA is growing rapidly every year.

Unless you planted it, fed it, and raised it yourself, you just don't know exactly what you're eating. I don't worry so much about this for myself as I do my children. I still buy organic because I think it taste better and I don't have any other choice. Fortunately, both my daughters like fruits and veggies and soy products. When I see free range organic chicken I buy it. I know I'm not always getting exactly what I'm sold on but again, it's better than the alternative.
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2010 20:09 | Quote
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btimm says:
EMB you question the medical field's intents on many topics, and post things about Monsanto, etc. It's good that you think and try to stick to yoru principals. But i have a question for you. Why do you believe that when a company says it is organic, that they are actually telling the truth?


Hah! i dont. one of the reasons i have an organic garden in my yard. However its better then buying hormone injected meats, BPA plastics, Pestacide fruits, and GMO vegatables. SO even if a organic" thing may not be fully organic its better then not... ANd most of the time its the processed organic goods which contain non organic stuff and get by. You really cant have a partially organic fruit or vegatable.




Yeah i just dont like the idea of eating another living being and not being organic. I think if i was forced to id have a grass fed steak every once in a while, but i see no reason to. I can get my B12 along with the other necesary nutrients in other foods/suplements.
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2010 20:14 | Quote
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Mistaluke says:
EMB I find it awesome that your the type of person who can think for himself. Meaning I like the fact that everyone else is a carnivore but you still decide to go for whats right and be a vegetarian.
You my friend can think for yourself and doesnt need everyone elses opinion to decide for you


Hey thanks!

I used to be a bit of a pushover on everything. I still am on some things, however i go by three categories

If it involves hurting someone else ill be a pushover to not hurt them unless its absolutly necesary or rather unimportant

I will stick to my guts till the end on something im 100% that i know. Like the cure for cancer, or organic foods, or my opinions, such as being a veg, im not gonna tell other people not to eat meat, but just because everyone else does doesnt mean im going to

And on stuff i dont know or dont know 100% i question and i learn about.

Ive really started to learn and educate a lot by doing this. And i enjoy it.

THanks again :)
btimm  
23 Nov 2010 21:09 | Quote
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I would suppose growing it yourself would give you some level of knowledge then. hahaha :o)
Domigan_Lefty  
23 Nov 2010 21:10 | Quote
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Im just too skinny to go veg. I would die in a week.
Literally.
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2010 21:53 | Quote
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I dont claim to know everything about it, however i do know going organic is better for you, vegitarian isnt. There are essecial nutrients and vitamins in meat, however i just dont...

But yeah even the veggies we grow arnt organic. Our dumbass county government sprayes for mosquitos twice a year, so we put a sheet over the veggies that day... Doesnt do much though, still will go in the soil

Anway... So it seems im the only one...

deefa  
24 Nov 2010 08:16 | Quote
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@ Elliot
I haven't eaten meat in almost 30 years, wheat produce for 5 and the only dairy produce I eat is cheese (for the calcium) and the occasional egg.
The trick is not to label yourself. Never own up to being a vegetarean or vagan or whatever. If you find yourself under attack just shrug your shoulders and ask the question "Why do you feel so threatened?."
EMB5490  
24 Nov 2010 15:28 | Quote
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YEah thats true, i guess i do call myself a vegitarian, but dont really care what other people thing...
Admiral  
24 Nov 2010 16:11 | Quote
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I agree that the food industry has become pretty strange these days with the use of dodgy methods to get their animals as fast as big as possible. However, some people are only willing to pay a few cents for their sausage or their hot dog, and looking at those ridiculously cheap prices in supermarkets nowadays, its no wonder that it cant be real, organic, and great quality meat.
MoshZilla1016  
24 Nov 2010 16:32 | Quote
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EMB makes a good point and I am NOT a vegetarian. Unless you hunt or fish...etc. you have no idea what you are eating. I work in the food business every day and see products that should be refrigerated or frozen sit for hours and thaw out. Only to be re-frozen and sold to the consumer. But the main thing is the cruelty animals are put through before they get to your plate. If you have 10 minutes to kill watch this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDea6L9gPD8&feature=related
guitarmastergod  
24 Nov 2010 20:05 | Quote
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i dont like the thought of how meat is produced, or the thought of killing another animal, so i wont make a cruel joke, but i cant live without meat so yea... also macandkanga that didnt make any sense and had nothing to do with this topic to me. it honestly pee'd me off that i wasted my time reading it. i take an agriculture class at school and they show some pretty grotesque video's on how poultry and meat is produced and makes me sick how flucked up people can be.
btimm  
24 Nov 2010 22:03 | Quote
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guitarmastergod says:
also macandkanga that didnt make any sense and had nothing to do with this topic to me. it honestly pee'd me off that i wasted my time reading it.


I am guessing you are referring to the dialogue post he made? If so, this saddens me deeply. :o
case211  
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I must agree with you Btimm. If you don't like that post GMG... well...
Pitt: "You will know my name as the Lord! ...when I lay my vengance upon thee. *bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam*" haha jk jk
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