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michaelcollins  
14 Apr 2010 16:19 | Quote
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I want to start learning some jazz.Where should I begin
Admiral  
14 Apr 2010 16:23 | Quote
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Depends on where you are at the moment? Are you familiar with the jazzy-sounding chords? like 7th/9th chords etc?
nater2  
14 Apr 2010 16:25 | Quote
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i'd say start with learning chords, especially the harder more complex one like, Maj7, 7, b57, #57, m7b5, dim7, sus7 and stuff like that
michaelcollins  
14 Apr 2010 16:32 | Quote
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Admiral says:
Depends on where you are at the moment? Are you familiar with the jazzy-sounding chords? like 7th/9th chords etc?


I know a few I just don't know how to apply them
Mici  
14 Apr 2010 16:38 | Quote
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I played with a Jazz Band for a very short time so I'll tell you to start learning songs. The more songs you learn the better you'll know how and where to apply those chords.
Of course, it's also about theory. Learning your theory will help a lot on everything but you can take it easy. You don't have to learn it al at once, take it bit by bit.
carlsnow  
14 Apr 2010 17:30 | Quote
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By listening to as much Miles, 'Trane, Powell, Monk, Mingus, Duke, Lester, Blakey, Herbie, -etc as you can wrap yer ears around.
all the info you need is there for now.
later theory will play a role.

but really, like i said; have a heapin' helpin' of "the greats" , absorb what they give, learn the "why" before the "how" and yer on yer way..

Cs
carlsnow  
15 Apr 2010 09:53 | Quote
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i was 'musing' about this this morning whilst having muh morning Bean with another (even older) geezer we call Phip, and realized that more info would be helpful to you , beyond the *"Ears First-Fingers Second"(*an olden axiom of mine i frighten my 'Jazzier' students with lol)

SO
A few suggestions in the "Finger Department"

1- Beyond soaking-up the 'greats'(read: 'my favs' lol)i mentioned, a venture i8nto 'guitar Jazz' will also help.
Rub the gamut; try some OLD Grant Green, Wes Montgomery(pre-63), Joe Pass, etc... to the "Fusion cats" like John McLaughlin(with Miles Esp), Mike Stern, Pat Metheny, and Pete Cosey to Newer Cats (since 80) like (my fav) Bill Frisell, James Blood Ulmer, the renewed)Mike Stern, Mike Ribot, Elliot Sharp, Sonny Sharrok, David 'Fuze' Fuskowski(sp?)(Screaming Headless Torsos etc) and the Young Cats forging newer ground in bands such as Dysrhthmia, Behohd!..The Arctopus, and so on and so forth.

2- (i know this sounds odd but) avoid 'laying like" (or trying to) the Git-Players and hone in on the MOST important and MOST OVERLOOKED aspect of "Jazz" in general(other than sheer Improvisation)The MELODY(sounds crazy no?)

2B- a GREAT way to do this is by listening to old 'Standards' (Round Midnight', 'Moanin', 'Blue Monk' to name a few) played by the folks who created them. It makes no difference at all whether the melody is carried by a Sax, Piano, or Glockenspiel, its still the melody and is well worth interpreting on your guitar.

3- and to that end (above) I would suggest doing what legions of folks do with Guitar "solo's" (if it aint improve it aint a "solo" imo) ... Learn the "LINE"
IE: Try playing Miles Davis's Trumpet line on 'Round Midnight' (LP of same name) Or Follow Thelonious Monks Angular (soaked in by Bill Frissel, quite often lately) Key(P)-Strokes of unbridled sonic beauty to the source melody (he "states" often) of say HIS version (he wrote it) of Round Midnight, Blue Monk, etc .. or Coltrane's insane Maj-3 leaps found on 'Blue Train' and 'Giant Steps'

its a huge huge lengthy study, but one i have NEVER seen "go wrong" or do anything but IMPROVE a players abilities...SURE; its frustrating as can be at first but Whoa! When ya DO nail one you'll be hooked fer life :)
(Its partly the reason i'm insane, chasing that 'Trane for 35 years or so and STILL learning every day .... inna padded room , of course!)

4- I have Tabbed many of these 'standards' (esp Monk) for my students and (if i can get the thang to obey, lol) will be happy to scan and post anything i can to help.

VIVA Jazz!!!

(a hush falls over Carl's sick lil brain bucket as he changes his Sig-Line this one time.....)

JAZZZZ!
Cs




Afro_Raven  
15 Apr 2010 10:16 | Quote
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michaelcollins says:
I want to start learning some jazz.Where should I begin


Speak to JazzMaverick, there's no better person to learn from on here than her!

Afro
KicknGuitar  
16 Apr 2010 02:30 | Quote
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Wes Montgomery is a great jazz guitarist to look for.
Django Reinhardt (someone who I don't listen to enough) is no less than amazing (knowing that he could only use two fingers effectively for soloing)

Enjoy listening.
harleyofdoom  
18 Apr 2010 19:22 | Quote
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Django's my hero
JazzMaverick  
19 Apr 2010 20:52 | Quote
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Thanks Afro! I appreciate that! :D

I've already sent him a PM on this matter, so I hope it's helped!

@Harley, HELL YES, he's a friggen legend.
KicknGuitar  
19 Apr 2010 22:56 | Quote
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Screw you guys,you're making me want to turn off Mark Knopfler and put on some Reinhardt!
JazzMaverick  
20 Apr 2010 15:30 | Quote
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*creep ghost voice* Doooo iiiiittt.... dooooooo iiiiiitttt
Empirism  
23 Apr 2010 06:14 | Quote
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Haha JM :D... Im sure JM and Carl told the best ways to learn Jazz, but theres an other way too... just see below...


BodomBeachTerror  
23 Apr 2010 11:45 | Quote
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hahahaha, i have seen that in ages, classic clip
JustJeff  
23 Apr 2010 14:36 | Quote
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Jazz is crazy!! Just something I can't wrap my head around... though some good melodic jazz music always makes me feel better!! Look up the Reign of Kindo... not your classic jazz band... but they are crazy good with a lot of jazz influence.
JazzMaverick  
23 Apr 2010 20:31 | Quote
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hahahahaha i love that clip :D

@Jeff, never heard of them! Thanks for sharing :)
KicknGuitar  
23 Apr 2010 23:43 | Quote
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Awesome.
Ozzfan486  
23 Apr 2010 23:49 | Quote
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For a while there I thought I could actually find a flaming top hat for sale somewhere. Too bad.....


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