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PERFECT/ABSOLUTE PITCH

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Afro_Raven  
14 Feb 2007 11:17 | Quote
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Well, I have decided to try and take my musical skills to a whole new level and have purchased a copy of David Lucas Burge's Perfect Pitch Supercourse. It's the one that has been around for about 20 years and has apparently helped many people develop their perfect pitch abilities enormously. It is all based around hearing 'pitch colours' in notes (just like your eyes see visual colours, Burge claims that you can hear pitch colours, and each note has a different colour.) He also says that it will not happen straight away, because the ear has been conditioned to not listen to individual notes 'in-depth'. However, try as I might, I just cannot seem to hear anything 'individual', particularly because I don't know what I am supposed to be listening for. Has anyone else used Burge's course and encountered this problem? If so, how did it work out for you? Also anyone else here who simply has Perfect Pitch, what is it that you personally hear in a note that enables you to distinguish what it is? Many thanks, the Rave-On
admtav_21  
14 Feb 2007 12:10 | Quote
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Actually I bought this course about a year and a half ago and struggled the same way. After the first few months i simply put it in my dresser and never used it since. Butt I plan on starting it again. Just stick with it....its supposed to really work. I know its worked for a lot of people...their secret?...just stick with it. No matter how long it takes. Go through the Cds in order and don't go to the next cd until you pass the "test". this is not an overnight thing.....im gonna SLOWLY go through it...until i get it.....

i'll give you the results in a few years :-)
Afro_Raven  
14 Feb 2007 13:34 | Quote
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OK cool. Thanks for the input. Anyone else got any experience of this?
mightydave  
16 Feb 2007 09:44 | Quote
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never heard of the set , probably won't find it for download ... :p
let me know if it works afro_raven !
mightydave  
19 Feb 2007 16:45 | Quote
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lol i found it online :) i'll check it out tomorrow or something
luckyhubbie  
4 May 2007 18:38 | Quote
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Gonna try not to put my foot in my mouth. I have seen the product that you are talking about. Never bought it because I seem to have a good enough ear to get by. I can't tell you what a note is just by listening to it but...I can tell if my guitar is falling out of tune or if someone else's is. I have a friend that has perfect pitch I can say sing a F# and she can. She says that she has sung and played the piano for so long and has sung her scales so many times she just sings what ever scale has an F# in it. I have found that if i pay attention to my favorite songs and find one that starts on a C I can hum that scale and find the F and then move it a half step for the F#. I have no idea what the "note color" is that he is talking about so I can't help there. I would suggest that just like you can hear if your guitar is in tune over time you could train your ear to find any note. Keep listening try picturing your fret board when you hear a note or picturing a piano keyboard. Hope this helps.
philmarq  
4 May 2007 20:38 | Quote
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I haven't heard of that product but I know what you're talking about. I can't sing any note on demand but I definetly know a note when I hear it. Its much like a color, you just have to listen very hard to them. I think first you should try listening to two very different notes...say A and . Thats easier to distinguish between. Then you can move on to more similar notes like C and B and finally distinguish between D and D# and such.
BigHoney  
3 Jun 2007 18:56 | Quote
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See if you can get your hands on Audio Wizard Pro Ear Trainer.

www.audiowizardproeartrainer.com
Primarily targets recording engineers, but a nice little trainer that works.
zmazz  
4 Jun 2007 11:13 | Quote
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I tried the product. i have the same problem as yours afro. its really hard to listen to tone colors, especially if you dont know what you are trying to listen to. but, i think i was able remember the color of E note, the only problem is everytime it changes to higher a octave i always end up getting confused.. like i alwasys say its E but its Eb.. but thats close though.. i guess it really needs a lot of time to develop that perfect pitch.
blackholesun  
4 Jun 2007 13:41 | Quote
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my music teacher told me ages ago that people are born with perfect pitch, and you can't get it by practising. you can, however, develop relative pitch, where you can hear a 2 notes and say "ah, they are a perfect 4th apart" etc. and really, this is just as useful as naming a particualar note. If you hear a riff, and are able to say "that is C, D, Eb" then its no different to saying "that is the root, the major 2nd, and the minor 3rd".

People with perfect pitch might say that they've practiced it constantly for 10 years just to make themselves look a better, more devoted musician, whereas in reality they were born with it.
Pete_Rochford  
12 Jun 2007 02:13 | Quote
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Hey, 1st post.
I have been playing guitar for only 5 years and piano for about 5 aswell.
Neither have been serious until about 2 years ago.
I have always felt emotional when hearing music and I have nearly always associated everything with sound weather it be food, movies, feelings, whatever.
What I am trying to say is that you should try to link your feelings to the sounds. For example, if I see a piece of clothing at the shop that my girlfriend wants me to buy I think about it as a sound, a note if you will. Lets just say it is the fourth fret on the third string (dont know what it is called) and it makes me feel weird, I wont buy the shirt, lol, seems a bit strange but it helps in alot of ways.
How about if someone punches you, how does that make you feel? Try to associate that with a note on the guitar, or a chord, progression or even a scale (mode).
If someone yells at you, what do you feel?? Maybe it is something like a powerchord or something, I dont know, you have to discover it for yourself. I have the training course at home and I have only listened to 3 lessons and I already knew or could identify with what he was saying so I have put them on the back burner for the moment until i get a little more time.
The word, colour he uses doesnt mean green, blue ect, it is just a word used to discribe how you feel about the notes.
Sometimes I see in actual colour, sometimes its just a feeling and I get shivers down my spine or sometimes its just a position, like if I look straight and imagine the note as an aura let say straight in front of me, how would it look??? Some sounds are hard to get and some are easy. Just keep going and use the course, it will help you.

Most of all, try to identify, associate and feel each note for what it is worth, listen to a note for maybe 30 mins or so, ONLY ONE and dont let yourself stray, try to use the note in different ways and bend it and sofourth. Sometimes I use my keyboard and just hit the E and let it sustain forever. I will play scales over it or just check out which notes relate to the E, I might do this for 2 hours and It drives the woman nuts, lol.

Sorry for the long post but I'm at work and I am bored as FK.
Peace.
mightydave  
12 Jun 2007 09:24 | Quote
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welcome on the forum Pete , interesting post as well
i never associated notes with anything at all i'll try it out :D i'll start with the Eb and F# like they start in the course with


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