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Question about the E major pentatonic scale...

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tystikk420  
20 Jan 2010 16:23 | Quote
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Sup guys,
Ok so im trying to learn this whole scale, modes, theory thing on my own through internet lessons/youtube lessons but im getting different info. from each one.. For example, can someone explain this to me.

Ok so heres a link to the santeria tab, and take a look at the solo (you probably already know it anywayz)

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/s/sublime/santeria_ver8_tab.htm

So I found this video and the guy explains how the solo is composed of the E Major Pentatonic scale...and everythins cool EXCEPT!....the "walk" part of the solo where you hit the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th frets on the low E and A string...i looked on this site in the scales section, and i don't see any notes from the E Major pentatonic scale on the 3rd fret...wouldnt this be contradicting the theory of using the scale? If the notes of that particular scale are not on the 3rd frets of those 2 strings? I was under the impression, thus far, that in order for a solo/riff to sound good it has to contain the notes of a certain scale.

So how come basically the entire solo is in the E major pentatonic, except that "walk"ing part? Cuz when he plays that part, it doesnt sound weird or out of place, it sounds right...but like i said, the notes of the E Major Pentatonic scale don't fall on those two frets of those 2 strings..

Can anyone enlighten me on this? Any info is greatly appreciated, id rather hear it straight from a guitarists mouth...or keyboard =)

case211  
20 Jan 2010 17:59 | Quote
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those are called "Chromatics", they sound bad and out of place when you stop or play them too slowly, but when you add them in with the rest of the notes and play them quickly like the others, they sound amazing.
tystikk420  
20 Jan 2010 18:38 | Quote
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awesome! thanx!
raptorclaws  
20 Jan 2010 20:51 | Quote
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I found the following a good insight into modes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZFNWWMg41Q

After going over the modes (be patient) he uses the modes as part of chord progressions.
gx1327  
21 Jan 2010 15:00 | Quote
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i'm pretty close to you as far as knowledge goes, but i think it's the same theory where you can bend a string during a solo. let's say you are playing a solo, and it's all in the same key, but you bend a note a 1/2 step. that 1/2 step may not be in the same key, but it's fast and it sounds good, basically they are smaller notes leading up to the main note, which is in the same key.

i will have to check out that tab when i get home, i've been trying to find more new songs to learn...
Schecter_player  
21 Jan 2010 21:11 | Quote
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yeah. Sometimes its helpful to look at the idea based on scale structure. It sounds to be like he plays f#, G, and G#, then B, C C#. If we're using EM/Dbm pent then the F# G# B and C# are all "in key". They're the 2nd 3rd 5th and 6th degrees of the scale. The G is a flat or minor third. The C is a flat minor 6th. Those two notes are "out of key" but they are in the key of E minor. Its sort of a blues thing. That section of the solo fits perfectly into the Db minor blues scale. Since Db minor pent and E major pent are the same thing, and a blues scale only adds a few notes, it wouldn't be hard to substitute the Db minor blues scale into the song.

So a lot of the information is going to be pretty superfluous. But thats the way i analyze it.

@GX - I think thats partially right. Even pent belongs to a bigger diatonic scale. So a lot of the 1/2 bends that get played will be in key, just outside of the pentatonic scale.

please let me know if i made any mistakes in there.


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