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apollos  
3 Dec 2009 00:21 | Quote
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if somoene is able to play wiht a metronome at 250 bpm after only playing 5 months is that a big deal?
JazzMaverick  
3 Dec 2009 00:48 | Quote
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Well, tbh, I'd honestly say that's a load of crap. And if you/whoever could - it'd be with A LOT of mistakes. I'd like to see a video.
Domigan_Lefty  
3 Dec 2009 04:59 | Quote
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I could after 2 months. (NOT being a show off)

As long as you have fast fingers and memorize what youre doing (scales, chords, etc.) you should be fine.
carlsnow  
3 Dec 2009 05:28 | Quote
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WOW!
you are much faster than me ...and i've only been playing for 35 years!

@ MS Jazzy
...I'd like to see the video as well ! We may have a rare find here!

BTW ... My Metronome(a nice Sabine i use to help my students) will only hit 200, (Phipster's as well,i asked)so that must be a killer Metronome!
Could ya tell me the brand, or link me to it?
Seriously, i'd love to have a metronome that aint "stuck" where my students sit, lol, that i could use as an 'everyday' Gnome that wont be used as much as my 'student-gnome' or get knocked around, lol, like the 'student metronome'

But yea, again ... congrats on breaking the sound barrier so quickly!
you rock! I GOTTA see a Vid of this! (please?)

RAWK!
Cs
guitarmastergod  
3 Dec 2009 07:24 | Quote
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i can play 250bpm quarter notes. yea!
carlsnow  
3 Dec 2009 08:33 | Quote
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guitarmastergod says:
i can play 250bpm quarter notes. yea!


R O F-F L ! YA GOT ME! G-M-G , ya really did!
I was fixing to call BS, then read the "quarter notes" line, lol!
Good'un!
(still cracking up)

RAWK!
Cs



BodomBeachTerror  
3 Dec 2009 10:59 | Quote
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1 note per beat? i dont think that would be hard.
nater2  
3 Dec 2009 12:29 | Quote
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speed isn't always the goal
nater2  
3 Dec 2009 12:32 | Quote
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but, if you want speed watch this. i'm pretty sure it is a world record.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THXCi3H3NzM
Guitarslinger124  
3 Dec 2009 12:37 | Quote
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Some records to beat!







BodomBeachTerror  
3 Dec 2009 12:50 | Quote
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with those 2 middle vids that gs posted, you dont even have to know how to play guitar to be able to pick that fast, so it means nothing
nater2  
3 Dec 2009 13:55 | Quote
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i agree
Domigan_Lefty  
3 Dec 2009 14:00 | Quote
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@CS The one up top goes 250
apollos  
3 Dec 2009 15:38 | Quote
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BodomBeachTerror says:
with those 2 middle vids that gs posted, you dont even have to know how to play guitar to be able to pick that fast, so it means nothing


yea..not trying to b mean or nothing but why wud u post that here..uhh nvm thats retorical

since i have a guitar teacher now lol..i can safely say that those guys have bad technique and bodombeachterror is right when u play that fast u dnt have to know how to play guitar
guitarmastergod  
3 Dec 2009 16:26 | Quote
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i gave up trying to play fast because it just isnt that musical and the only people who know who you are, are going to be guitar nerds. also a lot of shred metal is starting to sound the same. people are getting so hyped up abouting being the fastest but it will sound quite repetative
BodomBeachTerror  
3 Dec 2009 16:28 | Quote
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yeah I pretty much gave up trying to play fast too. since im really not into much metal anymore. only time i wish i could totally shred is when listening to buckethead
carlsnow  
3 Dec 2009 17:28 | Quote
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guitarmastergod says:
i gave up trying to play fast because it just isnt that musical and the only people who know who you are, are going to be guitar nerds. also a lot of shred metal is starting to sound the same. people are getting so hyped up abouting being the fastest but it will sound quite repetative


thanks! GMG you said it for me.

RAWK!

Cs
case211  
3 Dec 2009 19:03 | Quote
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i feel the same way, I like to play fast, but, not anything over 180 BPM, I just don't like to do it.

guitarmastergod says:
i gave up trying to play fast because it just isnt that musical and the only people who know who you are, are going to be guitar nerds. also a lot of shred metal is starting to sound the same. people are getting so hyped up abouting being the fastest but it will sound quite repetative


That's why I don't like Herman Li of Dragon Force... he doesn't seem to get that after playing that fast, it just doesn't really sound musical
Guitarslinger124  
3 Dec 2009 19:38 | Quote
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BodomBeachTerror says:
with those 2 middle vids that gs posted, you dont even have to know how to play guitar to be able to pick that fast, so it means nothing


You are absolutely correct. However, it is still pretty cool to be able to pick that fast. Not that you could keep up with your left hand hehe. I know I couldn't! It was more of a sarcastic response than serious. But still, like I said above, pretty cool.

Anyway, rock on!
apollos  
3 Dec 2009 22:53 | Quote
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aihgt im bout ot post a video once i figure out how..i have a webcam..but when i open it up the picture buttonly only lights up not the vide obutton..but ANYWAY..my guitar teacher told me to use a metronome as hi as i can go so i used the one on this website and yea...but mabye..i feel like im doing it wrong now since al u guys say its rly hard to do..i dnt even think 250 is fast enuff wish i went to 300+
BodomBeachTerror  
3 Dec 2009 23:03 | Quote
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i dont think one note per beat at 250 is hard at all
apollos  
3 Dec 2009 23:09 | Quote
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me either lol...but who knows i might b doing it completely wrong if something this easy cant b down after ive been playing 4-5 months
Schecter_player  
3 Dec 2009 23:14 | Quote
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On a side note, you guys are all ripping speed pretty hard. It definitely has its place in music (but you all know that) You just can't overuse it.

Someone has to say it: moderation is key.
apollos  
4 Dec 2009 00:02 | Quote
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yes everything is fine in moderation mhuhahaha
Reinhardt  
4 Dec 2009 02:25 | Quote
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Lol ive never used a metronome in my live =P
carlsnow  
4 Dec 2009 07:21 | Quote
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BodomBeachTerror says:
i dont think one note per beat at 250 is hard at all

it aint.
but quarter note triplets @ 250 is.... hell, just 250-bpm quarter notes played cleanly on an acoustic is a feat from hell.
but what good are a zillion bad notes when a few choice notes make the point with less goofiness.

i don't get it, i just don't get it
...but then i'm just a (little past)-middle-aged guitar teacher, what do i know?
to me its its (something else i dont get) sorta like "adults" still playing video games; I know it happens I have seen it happen, but, lol, i STILL, don't get it.
(rolls eyes)
and again, why is this sooooo important(speed)?
(shakes old head, grabs Coltrane CD)
lol

RAWK!
Cs
fender_bender  
4 Dec 2009 09:34 | Quote
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@carl, I'm not trying to be a hole, but is there a reason you bring up your age and the fact that you are a guitar teacher in just about every thread?

Whats wrong with adults playing video games? My dad still does and he's turning 50 next year. The Wii is quite popular with older folks too.

Those vids were cool GS minus the middle ones.
Empirism  
4 Dec 2009 09:39 | Quote
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I think it could be fun to play fast, Im happy with 100-125... and playing with... I like the rhythm is one of the most important part of the music anyway, so please, shuffle me on 250bpm or 300 some melodic lines... like Carl said, cleanly. doh well... luckily for all the shredders there are always distortion and delay... and... btw Metallica is famous to slow down its tempo, so lead could use those quarter notes mentioned... so lead guitar sounds like it played really fast...ah well... just my 2 cents...
carlsnow  
4 Dec 2009 10:43 | Quote
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fender_bender says:
but is there a reason you bring up your age and the fact that you are a guitar teacher in just about every thread?

Whats wrong with adults playing video games? My dad still does and he's turning 50 next year. The Wii is quite popular with older folks too.

Those vids were cool GS minus the middle ones.


1- I bring it up as a qualifier and out of habit as it is what I do and who I am - sorry it annoys you.

2- Adults playing video games just seems like a silly waste of valuable time to me, and with an America THIS FAT that time could be used to get some exercise(real world).

Also every second ya play a silly video game when you could be making music seems an awful mismanagement of time to me. (as does this response)

3- I was speaking mainly to up and coming musicians and "shredding" (or whatever its called this week) and the fact that video games such as guitar hero have a harmful effect on music as a whole.
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The “look at me mommy! Look how fast I am!” attitude I hear in suprer-fast “shredding” makes me fear for the future, as it seems we are turning the art of Guitar playing into a competition sport.

That’s pretty much it.

Btw: if you don't like my posts, i have an EASY fix, don't read them. You clearly find no value in my opinion so; this should be easy for you.

RAWK!
Cs

case211  
4 Dec 2009 10:51 | Quote
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carlsnow says:
3- Good for the 50 year old wii folks, got nothing against em... ya kinda missed the point(s) they were aimed at "shredding" (or whatever its called this week)and the fact that video games such as guitar hero have a harmful effect on music.


I cannot stand games like Guitar Hero or Rock Band... my drummer(who annoys the hell out of me with this) brings his laptop to school and play guitar hero when he doesn't have class, and tries to show off... I want to slap him every time I see him do it, plus he's mislabeled me as being able to play anything that's fast(he says I'm shred! ha!)
fender_bender  
4 Dec 2009 12:38 | Quote
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Wow. Guess I struck a nerve. I never said anything about not liking your posts or not valuing your opinion. I have actually posted, "Excellent post Carl!" before.

I don't care much for shredding either, but I recognize the talent and it gets people interested in music and guitar. Rockband and guitar hero get people interested in music as well. The reason shredding is so popular is that it is entertaining to watch and sounds 'cool' to most people and looks/sounds difficult to do to people who don't play guitar.

But I'm just a 26 year old drummer, guitar player, bass player that plays video games with my family and friends and gets fat, what do I know. :)
apollos  
4 Dec 2009 12:59 | Quote
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VzceOH_K0k

thats me trying to play 250bpm using the metronome on this site..check it out.

guitar hero and rock band got me started playing a real guitar..i cud tell u guys the whole sotry but..yea its offtopic and prolly silly but i like those games they r games for a reason dnt knock them for what they r...
Empirism  
4 Dec 2009 13:21 | Quote
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Ptruu! steady boys XD... Aw, Carl is cool fella! little advertising should'nt be too bad ^_~, He surely could and (hopefully) get and promising players under his guidance through this channel.

Dedication like Carl have is admirable. I could I do the same, but I'm too nerd too to spend all my time to music. I also agree with FB that guitar hero's is good channel to youngsters get other musical streams than just top 10 pop...And it hell of a fun also.

Empirism
carlsnow  
4 Dec 2009 13:38 | Quote
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Empirism says:
little advertising should'nt be too bad ^_~, He surely could and (hopefully) get and promising players under his guidance through this channel.

why Empirism! are you [wink] suggesting [nudge/wink] that in this [wink] horrid economy [nod] a guitar teacher [wink] would [nudge] be so [nod] crass, [wink] as to use every [wink] available opportunity [nod] to gain more [nudge] students? [wink]--[nod] surely you jest! [laugh][wink][nod]
LOL ... ya caught me man, what can i say?

thanks fer the kind words as well, Bro, but (perhaps its a generational thing) i still think guitar player etc does more harm than good.
i hear it from students and parents alike. but it maybe different elsewhere.

but hey [BIG NUDGE] what do i know? [wink] i'm just a [nod] guitar teacher [wink] in a hostile economy[nudge] trying to get by
and
(serious now >> pass on some of what i've learned over the years to others with the willingness to both learn and remain teachable.

RAWK!
Cs




nocomposer  
4 Dec 2009 22:52 | Quote
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IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU'RE PLAYING!!!!! speed usually doesn't impress me at all. Landing the right note, that means the world to me. It can be 60 beats a minute for all i care.
guitarmastergod  
5 Dec 2009 00:15 | Quote
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i think if an adult does play a video game, its to relieve stress from working all day and stuff. i dont play ANY games weather its a video game or a computer game. well there is one that i seldom play called age of mythology because i have a facination with mythology
apollos  
5 Dec 2009 16:24 | Quote
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nerd jk! lol..no rly i took a book form the library in high scvhool that was like 500 pages about mythology...
gshredder2112  
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first year, i could play acoustic hybrid picked triplets @255 moving across arpeggios. I can alt pick pretty fast,have measured in awhile
but some of ye seen the vids i posted.
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My metronome doesn't go above 160. I think it can handle 200 or 250, but I basically just stop upping it around 160. Why? Any faster comes into the ****ty realm of forcing the listener to listen too much.

At the end of the day, you're telling a story, and if you're talking about 500 wpm, no one is gonna listen. I have to do a presentation on... well presentation skills. Here are some hints:

1. SLOW DOWN! Be clear and concise
2. Power of the pause. Make your point by pausing before, or after an important detail. Let it sink in, and then continue.
3. Move around! Don't stay in one spot. Get away from this "safe spot"


These I think you could all move to things you should do when playing guitar. Slow down your playing so your listener can follow along, but continue to send the same message. Don't be afraid of allowing some dead space, or play no notes. It's fine! And finally, change your melodic ideas! Even if you find this real cool sound, you need to lead them to it or play around with it.


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