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jazz scales

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muffinzman  
23 Aug 2009 01:04 | Quote
Joined: 23 Aug 2009
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Can someone please tell me what are some good jazz scales? I cant seem to get that real jazz sound
Empirism  
23 Aug 2009 02:16 | Quote
Joined: 23 Jun 2008
Finland
Lessons: 4
Karma: 35
Many scales can do. Theres actually not "best" scale for Jazz. The thing in Jazz is that it uses 7ths very much like Cm7, Em7, Am7 and so on, so you have to keep consentration what key is playing and play those scales over these keys.

I suggest you to try Dorian mode. So use A dorian over Am7, C dorian over Cm7 and so on...also Diminished scales could be cool... explore.

Well I think Jazz and Afro can explain you better thou... Hope this help you get started...

Empirism
guitarmastergod  
23 Aug 2009 02:57 | Quote
Joined: 09 Sep 2008
Canada
Karma: 8
knowing just scales wont make you get that jazz sound you need to learn what makes jazz, jazz.. like comping and stuff. im not a jazz guitarist so i cant explain it
Empirism  
23 Aug 2009 03:09 | Quote
Joined: 23 Jun 2008
Finland
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Karma: 35
Btw, this article been very helpful to me so check it out.

http://www.petethomas.co.uk/jazz-scales.html
shredguitar17  
23 Aug 2009 04:14 | Quote
Joined: 03 Feb 2008
United States
Lessons: 2
Karma: 7
Welcome to Jazz!!!!! I was once in your position a few years ago! Like Empirism and Guitarmastergod pointed out, there aren't any labled scales, only SUGGESTED scales, like for blues players use a lot of minor scales, such as the minor pentatonic its five posions, as you may already know!

Jazz actual is quite simple in practice, on paper it is difficult. As mentioned before, you need to make sure you stay in the same keys as the chords used or the root chord. Usually, jazz is in off beat timing, like 3/4 etc. Now for where to go on the fret board and scales, use contrast such as staying in the scale, then use some chromatics! Jazz also uses a lot of slides and using the whole fret board. Now, I can suggest a few "Progressive-jazzy" sounding scales: B Lydian, A major, and my favorite is A phrygian and D pentatonic.

Now combine that all together, chromatics, major scales, minors, and use the whole fret board and use your mistakes to your advantage (keep going if you mess up since jazz is pretty flexible, a great tip is if you hear something wrong or a note you did sounded bad, go back to that note and slide to something more melodic within the key) and you will find Jazz is a very satisfying genre.

Most importantly, don't give up and challenge yourself and have fun!!!
carlsnow  
23 Aug 2009 13:42 | Quote
Joined: 29 Apr 2009
United States
Lessons: 2
Karma: 23
@muffinzman

there are no "jazz scales"or "jazz chords
", to speak of. but often (when the band or a chunk of musicians drop in impromptu) many different inversion of chords are used.
like Gm7 = 3 5 3 3 3 3 usually..n Jazz Gm7 often reads as TX3333 (T= Thumb)and the basic C7 shape 01323X is moved around w/ the Root informing the stated 7 IE: D7 = x3545x and so on and so forth...

big thang =

Triads ... learn yer Triads

also learn to stack thirds and 7's 6's etc

and to create scales/modes intervocalicly (diatonicly)

most importantly ... grab a pile of Coltrane, Miles, Monk< Mingus, Powell, etc... and immerse yerself in that vast ocean of beauty we call "jazz"

and...
dont try and rip git-players riff-age, as great as that stuff is (Wes m , Grant Green, Joe Pass, etcetc..)
try playing the horn / piano /sax lines

make sure ya have a copy of Mile's 'Kind of Blue' and Tranes 'Giant Steps'

and...as always............>>>>>>>>>>>RAWK!



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