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bull_dog998  
22 Mar 2009 15:21 | Quote
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oky this is my first post i,am new ,,,,,would like to no if i no what key i,am in would i use only one pattarn in that key to solo with,is that the idea? what i mean is would i stay in that pattarn just move it with my cord changes hope i worded this right,need help on this issue thanks
les_paul  
22 Mar 2009 21:37 | Quote
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I think what you are asking is if you only play a certain mode over a certain chord and then change modes as the chords in the song change. Is that what your asking?

And by the way welcome to the site! You are in the right place to learn about all things music.

Guitarslinger124  
23 Mar 2009 00:59 | Quote
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There are seven modes in one major key...so long as you know what key you are in you can pay all over the fretboard using DIFFERENT modes. But you you take the same scale pattern and move it back and forth on the fret board you wont stay the same key.

And welcome to the site!
bull_dog998  
23 Mar 2009 09:35 | Quote
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well first thanks for the fast replys oky for (les pual) i looked around on your site yesterday and found afros post on modes and as i see you can take that major scale lets say Amajor and use the chords Amajor,,,,,,F#MINOR,,,,,,Emajor,,,,,,,Dmajor witch are chords 1,6,5,4 so i could use the ionian,,aeolian,,,mixolian,,,lydian,
in that order as the cords change or i can stay in the ionian mode
and for (guitarslinger124),i have to stay in that key Amojar but i can use thoughs modes in that key write, o and bear with me guys don,t give up on me. i have lots of ?????,thanks guy help me out her
Guitarslinger124  
23 Mar 2009 09:51 | Quote
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A Major? here are the modes: A Ionian, B Dorian, C# phrygian, D Lydian, E Mixolydian, F# Aeolian and G# Locrian.

and ask away man, there's no such thing as a stupid question...some are just easier to answer hehe...rock on man best of luck.
BodomBeachTerror  
23 Mar 2009 10:53 | Quote
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i learned all the modes as one scale, i see now that it probably wasnt the best approach. so questions like this help me as well lol
bull_dog998  
23 Mar 2009 12:01 | Quote
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(Guitarslinger124)?? so if i was going to solo over the Amajor modes i could use any one of thoughs modes to solo with write,
Guitarslinger124  
23 Mar 2009 12:07 | Quote
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you would use those modes i listed above to solo over a chords progression in the key of A major. I think you may be getting a little ahead of yourself though, make sure you fully understand what it is youre playing before you try and solo.
JazzMaverick  
24 Mar 2009 04:17 | Quote
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Basically when you're soloing, you're just complimenting the chords you're soloing over. Making sure you emphesize over the sweet notes of each chord while soloing and still manage to go off and do your thing. When the chord changes, so does your solo.

Like what Guitarslinger said, don't rush ahead, music is a very slow process, kick back and enjoy the music.
JazzMaverick  
24 Mar 2009 04:19 | Quote
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BodomBeachTerror says:
i learned all the modes as one scale, i see now that it probably wasnt the best approach. so questions like this help me as well lol


All the modes in the Major scale ARE one scale. Keep thinking that way! It's basically starting on the next note and calling that a mode.
bull_dog998  
24 Mar 2009 07:45 | Quote
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Thanks once again (Guitarslinger124 JazzMaverick)You 2 seem to no what your talking about, well you will be hereing from me again,,
JazzMaverick  
24 Mar 2009 12:25 | Quote
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There are more people on here who know what they're talking about, so we'll pass you around to them every now and then, too :D
Heather  
24 Mar 2009 12:32 | Quote
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Yeah, but I'll do most of the passing! :D I can only seem to help with the highly obvious stuff...if you ever need help figureing out how to make G major, I'm who you ask!

Anyway, welcome to the forum.
bull_dog998  
24 Mar 2009 14:14 | Quote
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don,t make me put my dog zyra on here
Heather  
24 Mar 2009 16:10 | Quote
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Haha! Sorry, but still are you sure? This pup kicks but with that chord! :D You'll be missing out on something there!
keithmark13  
7 Apr 2009 19:05 | Quote
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So it's vital if you move about the fretboard to be playing the correct mode??
Because i got the impression is you go with what sounds/feels right. I mean you'd be switching alot if you were going to be playing the exact mode under its exact chord value.
Guitarslinger124  
8 Apr 2009 04:55 | Quote
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Kinda sorta not really keith. Say you play in C major. You've got C Ionian, D Dorian, E Phrygian, F Lydian, G Mixolydian, A Aeolian and B Locrian. 7 modes, 7 different patterns all using the notes C D E F G A B.

Lets say you're playing a C-Am-F progression. For a solo, you could just shred your way through all seven modes, playing positions all along the fret board, which usually how I play (just going with the flow of the tune and playing what sounds good to you). Or you could play C Ionian, A Aeolian and F Lydian which would give your solo a cool sound because of the F Lydian being playing over an F major chord.

Another approach is to treat each chord in the progression as its own key. For example, while the rhythm guitar is strumming the C major chord and the Am chord you could play the modes I listed above, but while the rhythm guitar is playing the F major chord, you could play the modes that are in the key of F major (F Ionian, G Dorian, A Phrygian, Bb Lydian, C Mixolydian, D Aeolian and E Locrian).

Just a couple ideas for you, I hope that helped better your understanding. Bodom, Afro Raven and Jazz Maverick have some awesome lessons on modes that you should check out.
JazzMaverick  
8 Apr 2009 09:23 | Quote
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It's one thing to hear your way around, but being new at guitar it limits you to the very basics and occasionaly you'll play something "technically" wrong, and not understand why. This is where theory comes in and helps you to understand why certain things sound good and certain things don't.


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