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cloudfor  
5 Feb 2009 18:04 | Quote
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as topic shows...
can someone be my online teacher? :P

i am beginner, most of the skill n theory of guitar i don't know how to start to learn...

ermm...so can anyone help me? please

HeavyGuitar  
5 Feb 2009 18:06 | Quote
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Learn the modes:) That's how i began to learn theory!
RelaxedDude  
5 Feb 2009 18:07 | Quote
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Since your a beginner, why not start by trying to teach yourself?
You will understand concepts much easier if you learn them through your own experiance

Still, hang around this site and try the tabs at the top, they are very useful

Start off with the beginner lessons
BodomBeachTerror  
5 Feb 2009 18:25 | Quote
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tis a good place to come then! if you have any questions just ask, theyre SURE to be answerd! =D
cloudfor  
5 Feb 2009 18:36 | Quote
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yeah yeah!!!
i found out this site really useful

modes? wat is that?
ermm...oh yeah, i am asian...my english not really well, u guys might find hard to understand my language =.=" soweeee Zzz

ermmm...where to find the beginner leson?
BodomBeachTerror  
5 Feb 2009 18:39 | Quote
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press the Lesson link at the top of the page, then theres 3 sections, Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced, the ones under Beginner are the easiest ones
RelaxedDude  
5 Feb 2009 18:41 | Quote
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Dude, your asian! I already like you =D
What part of Asia?

Nihon-jin desu ka?
HeavyGuitar  
5 Feb 2009 18:52 | Quote
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The modes are:
Lydian
Ionian
Mixolydian
Dorian
Aeolian
Phyrigian
Locrian

I memorized all the notes in them and tried to understand and figure out how they worked, thats how i started...how long have u been playing.
cloudfor  
5 Feb 2009 18:57 | Quote
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Relaxed Dude
not, i am malaysian chinese...LoL, i speak mandarin :P
i am not japanese...
but know a little bit japanese...keke

Bodom Beach Terror
but inside there a lot lesson =.=?
start with randomly also can? or need to be sequential?

HeavyGutiar
god =.=", that things quite complex...LoL
izzit i start from lydian 1st? n slowly memorize for others
HeavyGuitar  
5 Feb 2009 19:02 | Quote
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U se i u memorize C lydian u also memorize
G ionian
D Mixolydian
A Dorian
E aeolian
B Phyrigian
F# Locrian

They are the same, i don't quite understand it myself, but use the circelof fifths to help u until u have memorized all the notes!
cloudfor  
5 Feb 2009 19:05 | Quote
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ermmm...i'll try to figure out...
or is there anything important basic i needs?
RelaxedDude  
5 Feb 2009 19:09 | Quote
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Im not sure if your should confuse him with modes

I think the first thing you need to know are all of the open chords, the notes of the strings, and then the major scale before you even start thinking about the modes
HeavyGuitar  
5 Feb 2009 19:10 | Quote
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Memorize all the notes on the guitar, thats the first thing u gotta Knowing where every note are if u don't know that i don't recomend u starting learning the modes, i didn't understand a **, i don't understand a ** now either, but i do understand a little more:)
HeavyGuitar  
5 Feb 2009 19:11 | Quote
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major scale?...what about the minor scale?
cloudfor  
5 Feb 2009 19:12 | Quote
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Open chords is?
6th - E F F# G G# A?
Major scale?

hmmm...
RelaxedDude  
5 Feb 2009 19:17 | Quote
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Dude, the minor scale is pretty much the same position as the major scale except its 3 semi-tones lower

ex. the position of C major is the same as A minor
RA  
5 Feb 2009 19:17 | Quote
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i hate to intrude on the convo, but i hate to break it to you heavy you'll never understand it, the more you know the more you see what you don't know the more it hurts your brain
RelaxedDude  
5 Feb 2009 19:19 | Quote
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Man aint that the truth
HeavyGuitar  
5 Feb 2009 19:20 | Quote
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What do u mean? never understand it?
cloudfor  
5 Feb 2009 19:24 | Quote
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lol...xD
anyway...really thx for u guys...
i think i should start with play well the major n minor...
then only to modes...
HeavyGuitar  
5 Feb 2009 19:25 | Quote
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yeah, maybe not best no hit the modes just yet:P
BodomBeachTerror  
5 Feb 2009 19:28 | Quote
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once you know all the basic chords, can switch between them quick and clean,and can keep good timing while strumming. start with the pentatonic scale. maybe check out the 24 permutations to get your right and left hands coordinated
cloudfor  
5 Feb 2009 19:34 | Quote
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basic chords...eg?
A pentatonic got 5 shape that one?
wat is 24 permutations =.=?
Guitarslinger124  
5 Feb 2009 19:39 | Quote
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HeavyGuitar says:
The modes are:
Lydian
Ionian
Mixolydian
Dorian
Aeolian
Phyrigian
Locrian


That is incorrect...the modes in a MAJOR key are:
Ionian (I), Dorian(II), Phrygian(III), Lydian(IV), Mixoilydian(V), Aeolian(VI) and Locrian(VII).

The aeolian mode is also the natural minor scale and the relative minor to the major key.
HeavyGuitar  
5 Feb 2009 19:41 | Quote
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cloudfor  
5 Feb 2009 19:44 | Quote
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huh? why ?? @.@?
Guitarslinger124  
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HeavyGuitar says:
U se i u memorize C lydian u also memorize
G ionian
D Mixolydian
A Dorian
E aeolian
B Phyrigian
F# Locrian


That is the key of G major man...which you can immedietly tell because G major has only one sharp in it.


RelaxedDude says:
Dude, the minor scale is pretty much the same position as the major scale except its 3 semi-tones lower

ex. the position of C major is the same as A minor


That is because A minor is the relative minor to C major.
Guitarslinger124  
5 Feb 2009 19:47 | Quote
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HeavyGuitar says:
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you had all the modes named right, but the order is just as important.

cloudfor says:
huh? why ?? @.@?

why what?
Phip  
5 Feb 2009 20:02 | Quote
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Holy Gezz, you guys are freaking unbelievable! Honest to god why don't you just bring this guy to a cliff and push him off? You gonna put a guy behind the wheel of a car who's never driven before and send him down Molholland drive? Why don't you just cut his brake lines too? Here's what he said
cloudfor says:
i am beginner, most of the skill n theory of guitar i don't know how to start to learn...

You don't even know if he owns a guitar, knows how to hold a guitar, knows the names of the strings, can make a few basic chords, knows how to hold a pick, NOTHING, and you want him to learn modes? SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP! (sorry, I get a little exasperated sometimes)

@ cloudfor
Tell us what you DO know. What experience do you have? It says in your bio that you have one year of experience. What have you learned in one year please?
I want you to go here http://www.justinguitar.com/index.php and look on the left side of the page for "the basics" and then "beginners course". Start looking at those lessons and then come back and tell me if you already know these things. If you don't know the basics then spend some time there and learn, but please keep in touch with us for questions and help. If you do know all the basics then please come back and tell ME to shut up! lol
Good luck,
Phip
RelaxedDude  
5 Feb 2009 20:05 | Quote
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@ HG: Told you not to tell him about modes, they are waaay to confusing for a beginner
cloudfor  
5 Feb 2009 20:06 | Quote
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LoL! thx dude...ur information really useful...
but i think they jus trying to help me...

anyway...really thx to u guys...u all are so helpful...thx to god...to meet u guys in this forum...

keke ^^
BodomBeachTerror  
5 Feb 2009 20:15 | Quote
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cloudfor says:
basic chords...eg?
A pentatonic got 5 shape that one?
wat is 24 permutations =.=?


E,G,C, Em, Am, D

yes pentatonics got 5 shapes

24 permutations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUvTGa63hcE
good for building speed. but dont start going fast, start slow. so you can play it cleanly and then slowly get faster
RA  
5 Feb 2009 20:41 | Quote
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http://www.justinguitar.com


just underlining it Phip
JazzMaverick  
6 Feb 2009 10:39 | Quote
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Agreed with Phip, Modes are way too advanced for him right now.

Couldfor, you should start by practicing chords, the chords section on this site should help, but you should start by learning the very basics; Major and Minor chords. Learn them up and down the fretboard.

Would you like me to write a beginners lesson on it for you?

Speed isn't everything, you need to make sure you practice these very slowly, with no mistakes, once you're able to play it at a certain tempo with no mistakes, then you can increase your speed.
macandkanga  
6 Feb 2009 11:04 | Quote
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Good job Master Phip. Yeah. This guy is just looking for structure and a starting point. You gave him that.
cloudfor  
6 Feb 2009 15:10 | Quote
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i am jus feeling so lucky...to meet u all...
honestly, u guys really n really so helpful...
with sincerely to say thanks to u guys!!

JazzMaverick
yaya!! thanks!
i have one year experience, more in folk guitar...like play the song with basic chords(some basic barred chord) n basic strumming, fingering also quite basic =.="
i don have a teacher, i learn it from frens...and get one guitar start n play =.=
complicated Zzz
overall...i am not really beginner, but not to say intermediate also..LoL

so, if u think that what i need to learn start from the basic to the advance or others..n u willin to teach me...i'll willing to learn!!

thanks!
cloudfor  
6 Feb 2009 15:14 | Quote
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Jave:
wao... Nobuo Uematsu ur favourite too xD
final fantasy...woot~
JazzMaverick  
6 Feb 2009 15:14 | Quote
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Yeah, Unfortunately I can't guide you the whole way, but all of us here can help when we can. But music is mainly about yourself and how you learn. Because we can't play the guitar for you and tell everyone you did it.

Folk guitar is a good starting point, keep that up, you'll get a good sense of rhythm if you keep playing that. If you're willing to buy a program, I recommend buying "100 Chords Method" that will help you with chords, basic ear training, tempo and rhythm.

I'll write a new lesson and it should be up soon.

Nobuo Uematsu RULES. He's my greatest inspiration.
cloudfor  
6 Feb 2009 15:26 | Quote
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Jazz:
ermm...yeah, i understand wat u mean =p
everyone can plays different kinds n feels of music...

i play some songs like backstreetboys, west life, ermm chinse & english pop song i think...

keke...thankx to ur lesson ^^

nobuo uematsu, i love all da theme song makes by him for da final fantasy
ermm...asian's band...mayday...do u know? LoL
i love their music xD
cloudfor  
6 Feb 2009 17:00 | Quote
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omg =.= i look at the map...that shows the members location...

i am the only asian =.=""""""""" the only one Zzzzzz ROFL
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