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blackholesun  
22 Nov 2008 18:52 | Quote
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That really shows how much your dumb little brain knows.You can't pick a real reason, so you have to settle with something the English press made after we beat Argentina 1-0 in the 2002 World Cup. You could say you find it boring, after all, three of the seven English Premiership games played today finished as goalless draws. But no, you have to use lame pictures to get your point across. How far do you reckon that's going to get you in life Skold? Do you not remember Nightmare getting flamed for stating his opinion without backing it up?

I don't know why bravery seems to be the prevailing argument, but here's John Terry getting a boot in the mouth during the 2007 Carling Cup final. The opposition team physio had to prevent him from swallowing his tongue.

TheAmericanBrit  
22 Nov 2008 18:56 | Quote
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Dude, I'm just trolling you. Chill, man.
blackholesun  
22 Nov 2008 18:58 | Quote
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Don't you "dude" me skold, you're not my friend.
EMB5490  
22 Nov 2008 19:01 | Quote
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ow.
EMB5490  
22 Nov 2008 19:08 | Quote
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these are my boiiies!!!! im a huge auburn fan!!!! woot wareagle



or this:



and my boy in '89 getting the ** knocked outta him

TheAmericanBrit  
22 Nov 2008 19:34 | Quote
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blackholesun says:
Don't you "dude" me skold, you're not my friend.


I'm not your Skold, budday!
Heather  
23 Nov 2008 09:10 | Quote
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EMB5490 says:
how many miles can u cycle? what bike you got?


Ha, I got a free massive sized professinal man's Raleigh Mantis from a former police officer. That's the mountain bike he gave me anyway, he also gave me a Street bike called the P4000 but I never go on thast thing, you have to be like at least close to 7 feet tall to stand on that thing! I can fit on the Mantis though, as long as I stand on my tip toes, but I control it well. I think the most miles I've ever covered in a day was something in between 6 to 7. But that was when I cycled in the country before someone tried to abuse me and steal the bike a year ago, now I do less and only go all over my estate so 2 miles now I guess.

Okay and about this rugby/'football' arguement, as much as I think it's a clean and fun row we shouold resolve it. How much does your average 'football' player weigh in muscle? I don't know the average rugby player's but I remember waching TV once wen an England rugby player's arms weighed 900 pounds each. He was a big guy!

American 'football' is a cheap rip off of rugby and steals real football's name, you know the one where you actually use you're feet practically the whole way through?

A boy who plays rugby in my year says in rugby oyu can only throw the ball behind you, appaently in American you can skip all over the place in all directions so it's less likely you'd actually be pilled on. Or hurt anything what with wearing a matress, at least in the REAL football you don't wear any gear apart form shinpads at most.

wow...I don't even like football but I am outraged!
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2008 09:21 | Quote
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o...me and my mom can bike for like 20 miles, she can go 50 or 60 but after that she dies. literally she explodes. lol.

no 1s arms weigh 900 punds the heaviest guy in the world weighs like 1400 pounds.
Heather  
23 Nov 2008 10:18 | Quote
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I see the problem, do you Americans say miles and pounds differntly or something? Like the temperatures? Like you people say 30oc is freezing but we say that's way too hot? I watched it on a 'top Gear' episode from last season so that's where I heard that from when a rugby player raced a Chavralette and he was good at it but they said he was slow because of his size and weight. I'm sure those miles definatly can't be the same though! You'd have to spend all day cycling from what we must call miles. I'm confused...why must we explain thing's differently?! It totally confuses the language of english!

When I was losing weight I got a twist stepper and went on it for 50 miles but I spent like 4 and a half hours on it. (I was home alone, that's why nobody told me to stop it because I was being obsessive! But hey, it worked I'm not so fat now anyway, possibly after all that time alone, ha)
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2008 10:52 | Quote
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32 degrees FARENGIET 0 degrees celcius. we use fanengiet. lol, how far would 50 miles be to you? its about from huntington to manhatten where i live. twist stepper? im talking bout a racing bike, my mom has a really expensive light racing bike, i forgot the brand all i know is it weighs like 15lbs and was lots of money. she is a good biker. she did once bike like 50 miles but passed out after.
jcb3000  
23 Nov 2008 11:38 | Quote
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50 miles to us is london to brighton roughly. a mile is the same i think heather is thinking of kilometres. kms are shorter than miles. dam imperial and metric.
Crunch  
23 Nov 2008 13:07 | Quote
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I wish we would finally switch over to metric at some point. I've used it in all of my science classes since I can remember, but I still can't think very well in km's or kg's. "Yeah, 12 sounds like a good base. Hmm, how about 14 for the next? Yes! Brilliant idea." Botards.

Heather, you should get the rules of the game straight before you criticize them. In American Football, laterals (sideways, duh) are always legal along with backwards passes. However, you may only pass forward once per play and only while you're behind the line of scrimmage. The forward pass is also the primary factor in setting up some of the "biggest" hits in the game. Sometimes a quarterback will lead a receiver too much or throw a ball too high, thus causing the receiver to jump in an attempt to catch the ball. If this is done while crossing the field there is a good chance that there will be a defender in his path, and said defender will be running at full speed in the opposite direction of the receiver. That's how my high school team christened the infamous "1-0-1 break your back" play.

I would say the average NFL player is between 270-300 pounds (I do mean average, so this looks skewed because of the linemen), how you measure their weight in "muscle," I will leave up to you (hope you can find their BMI's). A player at the linebacker position is very likely to have a lower single digit body fat percentage, and can easily way 270. Many also run mid 4 second 40 yard dashes (damn fast).



There you can watch Reggie Bush get crushed a bunch of times in a row from all kinds of angles! Anyway, the guy that hit him is probably one of the smallest guys on the team.
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2008 17:11 | Quote
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how bout the one of shelton brown to steven jackson. that is beast.
blackholesun  
23 Nov 2008 17:41 | Quote
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Running into people doesn't make sport. Where is the skill and technique in that?
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2008 17:47 | Quote
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yes like kicking a ball around is harder.
Crunch  
23 Nov 2008 17:52 | Quote
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Much of the argument Heather presented was based on rugby being (we'll say) "tougher."

Anyway, on that particular play, the "skill and technique" on the defender's part were exemplified in his position: ready to make a play on the ball. It also showed a lack of proper technique by the offense's quarterback (who's normally quite good), that floater was a BAD idea.

Edit: Trying to clear up the idea.
blackholesun  
23 Nov 2008 18:03 | Quote
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Yes it is, when you look at the skill and technique players like Ronaldinho, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi have with the ball, and how they can strike the ball in exactly the right place so that it goes where they want and bends exactly how they want, past a defensive wall and the goalkeeper. Go and watch that video I posted yesterday - the 3rd clip is of Roberto Carlos scoring a free kick against France in 1997, the ball travels several yards to the left of the goal, before swerving back due to the unequal air pressure acting on the ball.
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2008 18:10 | Quote
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how bout peyton manning, tom brady (hurt) or ladamian tomlison!!! LT!! play you see some real skill their vision, they throw the ball nd run it sooo perfectly. can u throw it inbetween 2 defenders on the run for a 40 yard td pass...
blackholesun  
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Fair play, the defender had good tactical knowledge to anticipate where and when the ball would be played. That applies in football as well, although in football you've got to play the ball, not the man.

And yes EMB, in football that is called a "through-ball", but the ball is played with the feet rather than with the hands.
Crunch  
23 Nov 2008 18:13 | Quote
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I don't think there's any denying that football takes massive amounts of skill. I've seen some crazy stuff and it's athletically comparable to what any of the people you listed do, EMB. It's just different.
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2008 18:17 | Quote
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well if ur talking most skilled u have to go with formula 1 racing, bmx/skateboard/snowboard trix things.
telecrater  
23 Nov 2008 18:34 | Quote
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I think this argument is point less. If you take American football players and put them in a football game they won't know what to do. I also don't think that football plaers can take the punishment that american football players dish out. It's like expecting a hockey player to do figure skating.

It's all war games any ways. Strategies to gain the field and take the point. If you really want peace in the world, then abandon your war games.

besides it's not like a real game like Mario brothers...now that takes skill
blackholesun  
23 Nov 2008 18:47 | Quote
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It depends on the type of skill really. There are 3 basic types - physical (strength, pace, agility etc), mental (creativity, concentration, predicting what's going to happen) and technical (passing, shooting, dribbling, etc).

I'm a massive fan of Formula 1. It requires large amounts of each type of skill - mental for having the concentration and reflexes to drive for up to two hours solidly, physical for having the strength and stamina to withstand G forces of up to 5G, in sometimes searing heat, and technical for actually keeping something that is half the weight of a road car, yet 10 times as powerful, pointing forwards!
GRX40  
23 Nov 2008 19:10 | Quote
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F1 is when they race on curving roads and stuff right? Not on a circle track like Nascars?
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2008 19:13 | Quote
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ye nascar doesnt take s much skill just driving in cricles f1 is very very hard an gruling on the body. if u have even raced a go kart at like 60 mph or above then you know every muscle in your body is flexed to race. you can ose 10 punds racing in a f1 race. i went to 24 hours at daytona, a great race. also the canadian lamons.
Crunch  
23 Nov 2008 19:24 | Quote
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I hate NASCAR... with a passion.
EMB5490  
23 Nov 2008 19:32 | Quote
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agreed.
Dyl4N  
23 Nov 2008 22:45 | Quote
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actually nascar is very hard coz imagine for about 260 laps going in circles and not crash...damn...is an endurance test(not like le mans but hell...to be going in circles and no crashing...) besides the g force each lap is so big...that's why they must be in a good physical condition to stand that
EMB5490  
24 Nov 2008 06:53 | Quote
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how bout to do 60 laps NOT going in circles while each lap is 2 or 3 mins or more and not 30 secs. how long does nascar last? f1 is harder and requires more skill.
blackholesun  
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Nascar lasts just as long as a Formula 1 race I think, if not longer, and the G forces the drivers experience going round the fast tracks like Talladega would be immense. Not all of the circuits in Nascar are oval shaped (like Watkins Glen), but I still prefer F1. Each car is 3 times lighter than a Nascar Dodge Charger, giving a much higher power-to-weight ratio. It's basically like putting a small car engine on a pushbike! This high power-to-weight ratio makes for extremely difficult driving. One of the presenters of the British car show "Top Gear" was invited to drive a Renault F1 car, and he failed miserably, and that's someone who's job is to drive cars.

Here's the youtube link if anyone is interested:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo
Heather  
24 Nov 2008 12:36 | Quote
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I'm not sure EMB, I'm just VERY sure for 50 miles here you'd have to be some sort of super being who never runs out of breath! Hmm...does your mother seem like a super human race to you? She could be if miles are the same over there! JCB I'm sure must be right in that case, no way could I run across Brighton that's for sure. Although I miles whilst cycling isn't so bad, I think my distance counter must be set wrong too. But we'll see when I get new gear on christmas and I'll let you know how far I can go EMB. Ha, I laughed when JCB said it was killometers! I'm so dissapointed in myself now. Ah, well...I'm still proud of that day anyway.

I'm of o go sit in the corner and cry now...
TheAmericanBrit  
24 Nov 2008 13:13 | Quote
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Nascar is ok, but it's too predictable.

LOOK! THEIR MAKIN' A LEFT TURRRRRN! I WONDER WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN NEXT!

Come back an hour later, and you won't miss a thing.
BodomBeachTerror  
24 Nov 2008 13:28 | Quote
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best sport is hunting... hunting man
TheAmericanBrit  
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Call it overkill if you want, but that deer will cease to exist in a few seconds.
BodomBeachTerror  
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aquadeer are pretty tough!
EMB5490  
24 Nov 2008 16:40 | Quote
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lol!!!!!!!!

@heather no she really does it. an average of 25 mph for 50 miles. its grueling. you go with a bike group. the c group b group a groub aa group o group, c does like 5-10 miles at like 7mph, b does 10-20 miles at like 12 mph, a does like 20-35 miles at like 15mph, aa does 40-60 miles at like 18 mph, o just go for as long as you can for as fast as u can until u pass out, my mom does the aa group.
Heather  
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Woah, I respect your mother for that, but at the same time I''m sore and envy her for it! Everyday just think of me trying my little best to beat that distance...I'll probebly pass out at like 12 miles though. But by the time I get that distance counter, we'll see! Chickens are THE best cyclists you know, and I am a chicken, I wouldn't lie about any of that...

Heh, maybe I should try to go up my local 'Roseberry topping' on my bike, walking up it's okay by trying to cycle up it should be a laugh for me. I'll either get stuck in the mud or roll off.


TheAmericanBrit  
25 Nov 2008 03:55 | Quote
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So biking is a sport now?
Heather  
25 Nov 2008 05:40 | Quote
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Of course it is, you improve fitness from it, anything like that can be classd as a sport. That's like saying running's not a sport. It's about the same when your cycling you just have more strain to pull along with you.
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WOOOOT
Sex just got qualified as a sport, I knew I'd be an olympian 1 day!
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