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Where are all the good guitarists nowadays?

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owensp  
2 Nov 2008 17:15 | Quote
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It seems that the mainstream rock of today doesnt contain any good guitarists. Why is this?
Nightmare  
2 Nov 2008 17:19 | Quote
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You're worng.. i think this topic should be deleted, thats my opinion.
owensp  
2 Nov 2008 17:29 | Quote
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Why dont you just tell me your opinion on the matter. I think that in mainstream rock the guitarists dont play anything difficult. Its all just simple chords progressions and sometimes if your lucky youll get a less than climactic guitar solo.
EMB5490  
2 Nov 2008 17:47 | Quote
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i found one...ready?
















its meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! lol

mainstream "rock"sucks. nowadays "rock" is pop. which is ***. if a band that played songs anything like used to be made, id pay attention to them. now...its very hard to find one "mainsream" rock band i like...if i even like just one.
BodomBeachTerror  
2 Nov 2008 18:04 | Quote
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yup, rock sucks nowadays.. curse nickleback and our lady peace!
Nightmare  
2 Nov 2008 18:12 | Quote
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No its not that dumbasses, there was crap before and there's crap now, it's just that today there are more bands and artists.
EMB5490  
2 Nov 2008 18:21 | Quote
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Nightmare says:
No its not that dumbasses, there was crap before and there's crap now, it's just that today there are more bands and artists.


hence more crap is being produced. some one call al gore and tell him its not cars causing global warming...its the bands nowadays producing "crap"! lol.
Nightmare  
2 Nov 2008 18:23 | Quote
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No, more bands = more crappy ones AND more good ones.
joe  
2 Nov 2008 18:32 | Quote
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theres loads of good guitarists you just need to look.

i dont get all this naysaying of how music is **** now, as far as im concerned a lot of it is mint.

the cribs - look at ryan jarman some of his guitar work is pretty mint as is johnny marr , ex smiths man who recently joined them

arctic monkeys - alex turner is a great guitarist as well

not my kind of thing but some of these metal bands such as trivium seem to have some pretty mint guitar tunes.

just depends what floats your boat.

blackholesun i think posted a link to a hellacopters track a while bakc, i think those guys are a great new rock band.

GRX40  
2 Nov 2008 18:40 | Quote
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John Frusciante is good:


Johnny Greenwood is pretty good:


I'd say Radiohead and RHCP are pretty mainstream.

Nightmare  
2 Nov 2008 18:41 | Quote
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Alter Bridge | Mark Tremonti
GRX40  
2 Nov 2008 18:46 | Quote
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^ Oh I didn't see Joe mention the Arctic Monkeys, they're pretty cool. Also, one could make a case for Tom Morello. And there's lots of good metal guitarists around (though they're less mainstream).
Nightmare  
2 Nov 2008 19:08 | Quote
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Johnny is awesome, one of my favorite.
telecrater  
2 Nov 2008 19:41 | Quote
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Time after time this basic thread comes up under a different title. it's rather tiring. Every one is listening to old music, classic guitarist like Randy Rhodes, Jimmy Page, Hendrix, Pete Townsend what ever else.

If you keep looking for great guitarists in yesterdays music your going to find yesterdays great guitarists. If you want today great guitarist then listen to today music. Better yet, how about tomorrows music, check out the indie, and un-signed music of myspace and else were on the internet.

Get over it already

TheAmericanBrit  
2 Nov 2008 21:37 | Quote
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What exactly are we defining as mainstream?
Crunch  
2 Nov 2008 22:31 | Quote
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You said exactly the same people I was going to GRX :) I would include the whole band though, so Jonny, Ed O'Brien, and Thom Yorke.

Omar Rodriguez-Lopez is really good, Tom Morello, Stone Gossard and Mike McCready of Pearl Jam, James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett, Jack White, the guys in Opeth... all kinds of really good metal guitarists. So yeah, look harder.

Edit: Sweet video of Frusciante going off.
BodomBeachTerror  
2 Nov 2008 22:39 | Quote
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i definatly would not say opeth is mainstream...
brodyxhollow  
2 Nov 2008 23:24 | Quote
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BodomBeachTerror says:
i definatly would not say opeth is mainstream...


Opeth is definitely mainstream.
BodomBeachTerror  
2 Nov 2008 23:34 | Quote
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opeth is death metal lol
Nutter166  
3 Nov 2008 00:51 | Quote
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Opeth is black metal and it is relativly mainstream.

How about John Petrucci of Dream Theater?

I'd have to agree with Telecrater though there are a fair share of great guitarists in modern music but we as musicans and of an...educational age are to busy looking into the past, my opinion is that it is due to the music other people en-lighten us to in academic places, it makes us believe/feel 'modern music is pants, look into the old' so yes we may gain things but we gain nothing new and lose out on contempory music to learn from.
I'd also have to agree on looking at the indie/un-signed bands/musicans, hell I've found some really insperational bands and some amazing guitarists in my own area through myspace and it's like.
brodyxhollow  
3 Nov 2008 01:02 | Quote
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Mainstream is generally any established band that has gained worldwide fame or notoriety. Just because a band plays a particular genre of music doesn't exclude it from being mainstream.

I mean, if you can go into a major chain store like Best Buy and find an album by a band like Opeth (which I did about two weeks ago), then I would classify them as mainstream.

Back on topic. There are plenty of great guitarists out there. There's just so wide of a market that it's hard to narrow down what you would define as a great guitarist in such a growing and competitive profession.
BodomBeachTerror  
3 Nov 2008 10:45 | Quote
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it really depends on what mainstream is.. i would say its something that plays on the radio.. i have NEVER heard Opeth or Dream Theater on the radio
macandkanga  
3 Nov 2008 11:30 | Quote
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That's it Bodom. THE RADIO. Hip Hop, Pop, Country, Talk, and Spanish dominate the radio. At least in the L.A. area. If it were'nt for the internet and sattelite radio, it would suck for us guitar people. Almost all major radio stations in L.A. in the 70's and 80's were rock stations. And when I say rock I mean metal, punk, classic rock, everything! But know it's all crap.
Nightmare  
3 Nov 2008 17:13 | Quote
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Nutter166 says:
Opeth is black metal and it is relativly mainstream

what! no. opeth is progressive death metal
jcb3000  
3 Nov 2008 17:44 | Quote
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avenged sevenfold have pretty good guitarists and id say theyre pretty mainstream. muse have an amazing guitarist and you can really get as mainstream as them lol. the legendary solo guitarists are still kicking out the good stuff. the offspring has two good guitarists, sum 41. i can go on forever, just goes to show there are plenty out there you just got to look.
Crunch  
3 Nov 2008 17:56 | Quote
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I think brodyxhollow described mainstream fairly accurately: You could go into a chain store and pick up an album. Out of my selections, I would actually be more surprised to see The Mars Volta (Omar Rodriguez-Lopez) in a chain store's selection.
Nightmare  
3 Nov 2008 17:57 | Quote
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sum 41,muse,the offsprings.. dude shut up before they kill u
jcb3000  
3 Nov 2008 18:03 | Quote
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you dont really understand, just because they dont bust out 2 minute solos doesnt mean theyre not good. anyways thats your opinion if they **. i dont care, makes no difference to what i think. also matt belamy from muse is actually a much better guitarist than you think
Nightmare  
3 Nov 2008 18:11 | Quote
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No I don't mean that. in fact muse guitarist is really good, but it just that almost everyone here thinks that alternative and punk music are crap.
jcb3000  
3 Nov 2008 18:16 | Quote
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matter of opinion really infact i really like that sort of music and it just shows that almost everyone here needs to expand their horizons that little bit more, and stop being so intolerent of others music.
BodomBeachTerror  
3 Nov 2008 18:36 | Quote
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muse is good, but theyre pretty indy. not really punk
Nightmare  
3 Nov 2008 18:44 | Quote
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I didnt say muse are punk, I was talking in general. Sum41 are punk
TheAmericanBrit  
3 Nov 2008 18:59 | Quote
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Sum41 is **, not punk.

Nothing has really been punk since around the 70s.
Nightmare  
3 Nov 2008 19:16 | Quote
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no they're punk, I know what do u mean but punk has changed.. Stiff little fingers my favorite
macandkanga  
3 Nov 2008 19:28 | Quote
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As different genres of rock develop they sooner or later become mainstream. Once the genre hits mainstream it's no longer about the quality of the music itself but money. It then becomes more about production of the music, the image of the band, and its ability to attract large audiences. Punk is a great example of how a whole genre can be ruined by money.

A good punk band is one that no one knows of except for the small following it has in its town. The lead singer is usually a drug attict who eventually overdoses and dies, the lead guitarists ends up in jail for assault and other charges, and the drumer marries his long time girlfriend and becomes an accountant for her dads firm.
owensp  
3 Nov 2008 20:02 | Quote
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i think that yes, mainstream can ruin a genre. rock has been ruined in my opinion. in the 70's, rock was about melodies and harmonies and the songs had alot of meaning to them(this was mainstream then). Now the mainstream stuff, is about what will appeal to the younger people this generation. Rock isnt the mainstream type of music anymore though I think rap or something like that is.
owensp  
3 Nov 2008 20:13 | Quote
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Nightmare says:
No, more bands = more crappy ones AND more good ones.

tell me of some good mainstream rock bands and i will be happy.
TheAmericanBrit  
3 Nov 2008 21:22 | Quote
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Depends on what we define as mainstream.

Are we talking about bands that are famous, or bands that are ***d out like the Jonas Brothers?
GRX40  
3 Nov 2008 21:24 | Quote
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owensp says:
i think that yes, mainstream can ruin a genre. rock has been ruined in my opinion. in the 70's, rock was about melodies and harmonies and the songs had alot of meaning to them(this was mainstream then)


Eric Clapton "Roll it Over":
"Go down easy and let me take my time.
Go down easy and let me take my time.
Rock me slow till I lose my mind.

Roll it over, let's take it from behind.
Roll it over, let's take it from behind.
It's only love, God knows it ain't no crime"

It's not deep at all. It's about having sex. Of course, Clapton is an excellent guitarist, and he did have a lot of deeper songs, but it's no different than any mainstream song now.

EDIT:

John Mayer is a pretty good guitarist, and he's mainstream:


Even though he dresses like a total tool (two popped collars?), he shows good skill.
Nutter166  
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Nightmare says:

what! no. opeth is progressive death metal

You are somewhat correct, they are a progressive black/death metal

Quote from my Guitar World magazine interview with Opeth:
'Even though we were part of the Black Metal scene, I didn't feel like we really belonged to it; we were more like hippies'-Mikael Akerfeldt

But yeah I'm not a massive fan of them so I won't argue anymore about it.

That was a pretty nice, improv?, then...kind of SRV influnced.
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