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BodomBeachTerror  
26 Sep 2008 16:40 | Quote
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Well it starts off with Billy (im just calling him that for now) getting in a serious car accident and going in a deep coma. where he goes to a dark place, like ones in nightmares, and hes wondering if he's dreaming or if he died and went to hell. Then he meets this character named Black (again, temporary name, and to put an image in ur head he'd kinda look like a dark scarecrow). This character basically represents the devil. so theres a song from Billy's point of view, then one from Blacks. so then a few songs in a new character is introduced, Im calling him Jester for now, this guy is Billy's mental insanity and is embodied in a mask which at this point Billy has the willpower to take off. As the album goes on Jester gets stronger and stronger, as it progresses Billy has less and less will power to take off the Jester mask, so he's losing his sanity. then near the end Billy gets enough strength to take of the Jester mask and throws it away. and instantly wakes up from the coma. He is now relieved he got out of that place, but soon wonders where he is because he cant see anything but black... and then it turns up his in his own coffin! THE END



wutcha guys think? suggestions? comments?
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 16:43 | Quote
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I suggest you never record an album if this is what you come up with.
blackholesun  
26 Sep 2008 16:43 | Quote
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Dude, aren't you a Christian?!
BodomBeachTerror  
26 Sep 2008 16:46 | Quote
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@ skold: lol wuts wrong with it?

@bhs: yes. so?
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 16:48 | Quote
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It's gay is what it is. I hate this whole "concept" album with fairy tales and what not. If it happens to you during an acid trip, ok. If not, it's just gay.
baudelaire  
26 Sep 2008 16:49 | Quote
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no...

the question should not be, 'what is wrong with this??' but, 'what is RIGHT about this???'.


because i can't find a single thing right about it.
BodomBeachTerror  
26 Sep 2008 16:50 | Quote
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i like concept albums

no wut?
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 16:51 | Quote
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Concept albums = no.
BodomBeachTerror  
26 Sep 2008 16:52 | Quote
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how is it not right?
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 16:53 | Quote
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How was the holocaust wrong?
BodomBeachTerror  
26 Sep 2008 16:54 | Quote
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things happen, not saying its good.. this world is messed in so many ways bad things are bound to happen

EDIT: and how are you comparing a fictional persons sanity to the holocaust?
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 17:05 | Quote
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The Holocaust WAS one persons sanity (or insanity, I guess i should say).
BodomBeachTerror  
26 Sep 2008 17:12 | Quote
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a guy who went crazy and killed tons of people, going crazy and fighting yourself isnt exactly the same
blackholesun  
26 Sep 2008 17:13 | Quote
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And how are you going to put this in the music?
BodomBeachTerror  
26 Sep 2008 17:23 | Quote
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kinda like Welcome to My Nightmare album type lyrics
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 18:01 | Quote
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He WAS fighting himself.

See, we need each other. We shouldn't be fighting and killing each other. We are all brothers and sisters. In a way, we all share the same life. We ARE each other.

So, in a sense, he was fighting himself. "Other" people just happened to be caught in the cross fire.
BodomBeachTerror  
26 Sep 2008 18:09 | Quote
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well the enemies in my story are a dark creature, who is the basically the devil, whether we notice or not, like it or not, were always fighting him.. and the other enemy IS himself. hes not fighting any one else
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 18:11 | Quote
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I know. As a Christian (or anyone who has anything to do with ANY religion), it's quite obvious. Anyway, I still don't think it's the dog's bullocks.
BodomBeachTerror  
26 Sep 2008 18:19 | Quote
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wut about if i put a salvation at the end instead of him waking up in his grave?
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 18:20 | Quote
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Nope. It just wreaks of gayness (not the salvation bit, that part was epic!).
BodomBeachTerror  
26 Sep 2008 18:21 | Quote
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lol k
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 18:24 | Quote
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Just write about your life, mate. If your life is boring, write about how boring it is.
soy.el.che  
26 Sep 2008 18:44 | Quote
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ive got nothin agaisnt ur story or the concept album....
Crunch  
26 Sep 2008 19:19 | Quote
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Skold, you're putting holes in your own argument with your "gay" reasoning. Blanket derogatory terms are generally not good tools when trying to argue any position, much less when your opponent is above the age of twelve and has an IQ of 85 (or higher).

I like the idea BBT, the story could obviously be fleshed out, but even in its current state, your outline has the cornerstones for the major pivotal events/songs. Give Opeth's Still Life album a listen, it's an amazing concept album, so hopefully it will help you with how you want to convey the story and other more technical things. If not, it's just a great listen.
Nightmare  
26 Sep 2008 21:07 | Quote
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hmm i dont see anything worng :S:S:S

and what are concept albums?!


kinda like Welcome to My Nightmare album type lyrics

:D: D
baudelaire  
26 Sep 2008 22:11 | Quote
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that is a AWFUL idea for a concept album. i don't there is anything more to be said about it.
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 23:19 | Quote
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Crunch, I'm not attaching sexuality to it. If I wanted to, I would have said it was Homosexual.

But, by all means, lets forget that words like "Gay" and "F*****" don't mean what we THINK they mean (Happy, and A pile of twigs).
bodom  
26 Sep 2008 23:33 | Quote
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Dude I think you have a great Idea there, I love the story line and the ending is just sweet. Not the salvation... the grave ending.

Dont listen to the "happy" little kids on this site. They are just "A pile of twigs". Hmmmm I dont think those meanings fit here...
TheAmericanBrit  
26 Sep 2008 23:44 | Quote
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Well, now you're just trying to be a jerk.
CaseyJones  
27 Sep 2008 00:45 | Quote
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im a huge concept album fan, especially the ones done by pink floyd, i like the basis, but if you could tweak it, addd take away, and so on, with good song writing and music, it could be good
telecrater  
27 Sep 2008 00:45 | Quote
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I think concept albums are tricky to pull off. The songs need to be solid and stand on their own regardless if it's just an regular album or concept. If the tell a story great. but have a listen to the final cut by pink floyd, a bad concept because the music sucked.
CaseyJones  
27 Sep 2008 00:46 | Quote
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yea the final cut wasnt that good, i like concept albums like dark side of the moon, where it doesent tell a story but all teh songs and the album itself tackle a certain point
league  
27 Sep 2008 00:49 | Quote
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telecrater says:
I think concept albums are tricky to pull off.


I agree. Your idea seems too specific for a concept album.

An Armaggedon theme would be better.
BodomBeachTerror  
27 Sep 2008 01:09 | Quote
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okay thanks guys

i would try to do kinda different voices for the different characters, like a growl/scream wutever u wanna call it for black, a normal singing voice for Billy, and a kinda twisted evil sounding voice for Jester.

this is something random i came up with in the shower lol. thot id see if it was totally retarded before i started with it.

I was also thinking that at the start Billy thinking that Black was good, then as it goes on he realizes that he is bad.. kinda spiritual thinking there.
madman3123  
27 Sep 2008 04:41 | Quote
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hmm im on the wall with this one although concept albums can be really good ie pink floyd-the wall alice cooper-welcome to my nightmare and the ones i heard off amrilyn manson are awsome.
Nightmare  
27 Sep 2008 07:17 | Quote
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what's a concept album???
Empirism  
27 Sep 2008 09:39 | Quote
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@Nightmare

I think they mean an album, where every song is part of an single storyline. King diamond is master of it ^_^
BodomBeachTerror  
27 Sep 2008 13:50 | Quote
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Rhapsody has funny concept albums about magic swords and crap, quite entertaining at times
Nightmare  
27 Sep 2008 13:54 | Quote
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ahh okay .. i hate concept album maybe because i hate pink floyd, plus bodom u cant use ur story as a concept album, theyre nice though if its was a story of a one song.
BodomBeachTerror  
27 Sep 2008 14:11 | Quote
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y cant i use my story?
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