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baudelaire  
16 Aug 2008 19:33 | Quote
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I have a 50 watt tube amp. i believe it has 50 watt speakers.

now, if i put some 125 watt speakers in there, will that make it louder and increase clarity and integrity at high volumes?
brodyxhollow  
16 Aug 2008 22:43 | Quote
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No. It may have the potential to be more powerful, but you would have to upgrade the electronics too. Otherwise, the lower wattage might actually damage the higher watt speakers. At least that's what I've been told, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
baudelaire  
16 Aug 2008 23:20 | Quote
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i've heard that before. anyone know a acceptable wattage range to squeeze the most clarity and volume without trashing the speakers?
telecrater  
17 Aug 2008 08:51 | Quote
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you might get more clarity and headroom by changing the speakers. If you go from 50 to 65 watt speakers you may get a little more volume.

Does you amp have ext speaker jack? you can use that to hook up another speaker box.

Make sure you match impediance when changing speakers
baudelaire  
17 Aug 2008 23:19 | Quote
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hah, i use a crate vintage club 50 i had revamped and threw some eurotubes in there. it's amazing. but it has NO features. no jacks but in.

i was hoping it was as simple as putting in some 300 watt speakers in there and all of a sudden all my problems would be solved, but i'm sort of a fucking idiot where things like this are concerned...
Doz  
19 Aug 2008 09:55 | Quote
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You'll get a lot of headroom and won't be able to push your speakers in the way some guitarists like to.
baudelaire  
19 Aug 2008 13:58 | Quote
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i wouldn't mind the loss of speaker breakup. i really don't like it at all when my speakers start to distort, so thats no problem. once i buy the speakers i'll tell you all how it works out.
Doz  
19 Aug 2008 20:20 | Quote
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Ah, well then yeah... it might work out fine for you.
telecrater  
19 Aug 2008 22:24 | Quote
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a 50 watt tube amp ought to have plenty of punch. What sort of gigs are you playing that need more?
baudelaire  
19 Aug 2008 23:19 | Quote
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i can't get it loud enough, ever. but i'd really like to be able to keep it at 7.5 instead of 10 and get the same volume with more clarity. clarity at high volumes is really what i'm aiming for.

and i like it LOUD.
Doz  
20 Aug 2008 10:26 | Quote
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You can't get a 50 watt tube amp loud enough?
baudelaire  
20 Aug 2008 11:00 | Quote
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i couldn't get a 100w marshall half stack loud enough.

it'll be loud enough when i'm in the stadiums.
Doz  
20 Aug 2008 11:02 | Quote
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...wait, I'm a tad bit confused. What do you *need* all this volume for?
baudelaire  
20 Aug 2008 12:04 | Quote
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hell, what do we *need* music for? i want it loud for the sake of loudness.
Doz  
20 Aug 2008 12:23 | Quote
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Well, I don't need music for the sake of having music. It makes me feel certain ways, and helps me get my own feelings, aswell as letting me relate to bands and music fans on more levels.

Pure volume for the sake of volume is meaningless. However, if all that you want it for is 'the sake of loudness' then save up your cash, and go grab the biggest, loudest, most powerful amp you can.
les_paul  
20 Aug 2008 16:07 | Quote
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My 40 watt tube amp will make your ears bleed if you turn it past 2. I can't imagine needing more.
EMB5490  
20 Aug 2008 16:29 | Quote
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lol @lp, and to think im looking at 100 watt half stacks.
baudelaire  
20 Aug 2008 17:05 | Quote
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they aren't bleeding enough, les paul.

the difference between 50 watts and 100 watts is only about 6% more volume. maybe 3 decibels. however, 8x12 speakers will move a lot more air then 4 or 2, and that extra wattage is also stronger sounding, more force to it.
Doz  
20 Aug 2008 17:54 | Quote
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That's not the point though. Something being louder doesn't make it better. Go for tone before wattage, amount of speakers etc.
lance  
21 Aug 2008 20:09 | Quote
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i couldn't agree more with Doz here. volume means shit when the tone isn't there.
baudelaire  
21 Aug 2008 21:45 | Quote
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obviously. but good tone isn't as awesome as good tone that shakes the ground. i've got the tone nailed, now i just want to break windows and deafen people.
telecrater  
21 Aug 2008 22:16 | Quote
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buy the loudest PA system you can put a mike in front for your amp and that's it. If you got the tone just reproduce it.

Usually you grow with musically with the people you play with and the gigs you get. If you need more that 50 watt tube you must be gigging at some pretty big places.

baudelaire  
21 Aug 2008 22:50 | Quote
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naw, my 50w tube amp covers all the gigs just fine. i just like loud things. i really can't afford a mean PA right now, i'd love to have one, though.


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