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WAT TO DO WITH TECHNO AND HIP HOP

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Pager  
21 Jul 2008 09:25 | Quote
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Do u find that more and more of todays youth are into that music, rap hip hop, techno,dance,electro,pop. its like deres no skill in pressing buttons 2 make ur computa music. sure u have 2 make notes and pitches flow BUT HEY dats same as rock but uve got 4-5 different instruments goin at once (including vox). i try and get my friends into rock and metal but like its hard we ned strategies, bring bak the days of rock and metal.(stands up majestically) we strive for the day wen distorted guitar rules the radio wen the radio presenter announces the name of not only metallica and priest but of led zeppelin and ac/dc as well. WEN HUGE SPEAKERS AND SUBWOOFERS ARE BELTING OUT GUT BUSTING DRUM SOLOS, FACE MELTING GUITAR SOLOS, HELL THROW IN SUM BASS AND VOX SOLOS AS WELL
INSTEAD OF THIS COMPUTA MUSIC SHIT

(soz for long intro but i felt special, like the scene in the movies wen the person makes the motivational speech afta his just been doubting himself)
GRX40  
21 Jul 2008 10:33 | Quote
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Well, I actually like techno/hip-hop/rap, at least to some degree.

If you look beneath the surface of MTV/mainstream (c)rap, there is hip-hop that uses real instruments and the people talk about things that are actually important.

And as for what to do about it, just don't listen to it. People who like it will continue to listen to it, people who don't won't. You could show them some rock and see if they like it, but if they don't, who cares?
blackholesun  
21 Jul 2008 11:07 | Quote
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Well, there's nothing you can "do" with it. If you don't like it, don't listen to it.

Some techno/electronica is pretty decent though. Check out a band called The Crystal Method. They combine electronica drum loops with real live guitars:





The Prodigy also use live guitars, as do Pendulum.

As for rap and hip hop, if it wasn't for that then we wouldn't have bands like the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Rage Against The Machine.

(This argument has come up so many times now!)
GuitarBoy666  
21 Jul 2008 11:45 | Quote
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And BHS, I frickin' LOVE Rage Against the Machine.
And lol, Forza Motorsport 2.. I have that game xD

But on topic,
I really hate pop/rap/dance/hip hop etc.
I find it highly annoying and wonder how people can like it. But I guess if you like it then that's your opinon, you're free to listen to whatever you want.
I tried getting some people into heavier music (punk, grunge, metal, hard rock, etc.) but some liked it and some didn't. I have friends that like literally everything... Hell, at least they're versatile with their tunes.
GRX40  
21 Jul 2008 11:51 | Quote
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I forgot to mention about rock/electro crossover. Rock + Metal = Industrial Metal, like Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, Rammstein, or Ministry.

There are also some bands like Mindless Self Indulgence that combine rap, punk and techno.
blackholesun  
21 Jul 2008 11:56 | Quote
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When you get older as well GuitarBoy666, and you start going to clubs and stuff, you kinda have to like it, cos that's all you'll hear!

To be honest, I don't mind that rock and metal nowadays sits behind hip hop in popularity. Since when did popular always equal good? I'm pretty sure that there's some die hard hip hop fans out there who hate the new commercial hip hop/RnB.
Doz  
21 Jul 2008 12:38 | Quote
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It's just a different style of music, get over it.
Empirism  
21 Jul 2008 13:59 | Quote
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blackholesun says:
When you get older as well GuitarBoy666, and you start going to clubs and stuff, you kinda have to like it, cos that's all you'll hear!


Hahhah, very true.

Yes, but its also something more than just pressing those buttons. When you try to produce the "beat" in your drum and bass track to get it "pumpping" and do hours and hours of work changing little parameters of effects and equalizators. Pager, dont mock it. There is always something you can learn.

and if you listen band called Ozric tentacles or Porcupine tree. You will propably change your opinion for computers or synthezizers in music or backing guitar.

blackholesun  
21 Jul 2008 16:16 | Quote
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Wahey, Porcupine Tree! I think I've gotta go give you karma just for that!

It's true though. Some of their really early stuff is really trance influenced, like The Sky Moves Sideways or Voyage 34. And their latter stuff still occasionally uses sampled drums, like the intro to Sentimental.
league  
21 Jul 2008 21:21 | Quote
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Yeah I'm kind of glad I'm the only guy on my block who knows what real Rock music is. Anyways Hip Hop is in its (Glam Metal) stage right now. Rmember the Ratt and Warrant videos?
Empirism  
22 Jul 2008 13:10 | Quote
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Yeah, I was taken that Porcupine tree did a gig here in Finland. One of the best gigs Ive seen last 7 years...
jcb3000  
22 Jul 2008 17:10 | Quote
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Pager says:
no skill in pressing buttons 2 make ur computa music

no harder than putting your fingers on a string and strumming, and pendulum, prodigy, faithless and others are sheer awesome, should expand your horizons a bit, and how do you think they do the backing tracks? drums, bass and keyboards play a bit part in that
ironman91313  
22 Jul 2008 17:20 | Quote
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I love techno, but I hate hip-hop. every time I listen to it I find out a new song that they mess up. for example the other day at my friends house I heard the beginning of what sounded like Fear of the Dark by Iron Maiden. but it turned out to me another rap song about the same old thing. I mean they even used the live croud's chant along with the main riff!
jcb3000  
22 Jul 2008 17:51 | Quote
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i think i heard that too, and thought the exact same thing, the one on real live one right? and did you see them on their somewhere back in time tour?
ThePusher  
23 Jul 2008 03:26 | Quote
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Kill it? thats what I'd do with it
Pager  
23 Jul 2008 09:17 | Quote
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the above statement was the reaction i was looking 4 :D

i posted on this before but it didnt cum up??? weird
ThePusher  
25 Jul 2008 02:16 | Quote
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Glad to ablige
telecrater  
25 Jul 2008 06:41 | Quote
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I would just leave it alone.

People get very passionate about music, but not every one needs to be into the same stuff. but just because your buds are into techno does not mean you have to be.

Find your inner peace man and just let it be
Pager  
25 Jul 2008 08:32 | Quote
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lol, groovy words man, psychedelic man, like im down with that man, psychedelic peace out man,

hahahahahahahahah
ThePusher  
26 Jul 2008 03:19 | Quote
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Yeah man, I'ma be chill, I like some techno
ironman91313  
27 Jul 2008 21:11 | Quote
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@jcb. yeah its that one. and no I was supposed to but my uncle didnt pull though for me
CTown  
28 Jul 2008 00:08 | Quote
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I agree that the worst thing about rap is all the reusing of sampling and the remixes out there. The underground will always be, well underground. But the Golden Age of rap has died a while ago. Every new song has to have a dance to go w/ it. It's sad... I was out with a few people the other night and these two girls had no idea of Warren G's "Regulators" (We were talking about classic rap songs)
Pager  
28 Jul 2008 05:04 | Quote
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LMAO

hasnt this thread died yet?? :D


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