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Megadeth vs Metallica

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EMB5490  
28 Aug 2008 19:48 | Quote
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drum machines cant! u dont think drummers write songs? and anyway id love to see the laughs some 1 gets when they go onstage and say ther using a drum machine. drumming IS NOT a simple task any drummer would be offended, what makes it so simple eh?
league  
28 Aug 2008 20:31 | Quote
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@EMB HipHop DJs use drum machines on stage and their fans love em.LOL

@Baudelaire.Excuse my tone, I am being serious. You agree with most that Metallica is better because of record sales. Would you say that it is a coincidence that more people choose Metallica over Megadeth and Metallica is musically superior, or do you assume they all know as much as you do and thats why they love Metallica? You clearly know more theory than us yet you still argue with us and resort to electronic sampling of drums over a real drummer. Also, anyone that knows about Metal, knows that Metallica and Megadeth changed their sound to please the majority of consumers. Metallica, however, surpassed Megadeth in popularity and record sales. Post "And Justice For All" Metallica songs are heard on the radio and reached people like Skold(no offense) who dislikes Metal yet chooses Metallica over Megadeth.
Could you just clear that up for me Baudelaire?
EMB5490  
28 Aug 2008 21:54 | Quote
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lol hip hop djs, lol. and the only reason tht i like metallica more is ther a little less heavy, musically megadeth is better.
baudelaire  
28 Aug 2008 22:08 | Quote
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EMB, people MIGHT laugh, and they'd be wrong - and if you do your job, by the end of the show, they'll have had a great time, and it won't matter at all that you used a drum machine. in fact, most people probably wouldn't care - it would sound just as good in any event. in my opinion, i can get a better, more even drum sound using a machine, because every sample was perfected already, and a single line out is easier to manage then 6 mics and a mixer and a shitload of equipment to go along with it. it's very easy to dial in the right drum tone to blend with the other elements - and once it starts thumping, people forget there is no drummer. and a drummer isn't any better at composing music then the average joe off the street. they make drum beats better then the average joe off the street, thats all. drumming IS a simple task that can, like all simple tasks, be made more complicated then it needs to be. and, in any event, my machine can handle that complicated stuff just as well.

i say this: i say there is no real way to say which band is better based on opinion and argument of talent. the only solid thing we have is numbers; and metallica has sold more records. now, depending on how you look at it, that could mean something, or it could mean nothing. it could mean that as entertainers they are superior because they entertain more people, or it could mean that they 'sold out' and didn't make music for its own sake. it could be taken either way. i'm not sure what you are asking here; i enjoy metallica more then megadeth because i am more pleased by their music, the cause of that i discern to be superior songwriting ability, superior musicanmanship, including singing and lyrical content. but that is mere opinion. if i want to present a argument based on fact, there is no fact but record sales. i am not saying that that is why i like them, i'm saying thats the only factual way to judge them on a extrapersonal level.

as for the changing of their sound, i see that as a good thing. but that is just opinion, as is my opinion that it is a good thing, because on metallicas part at least their talent and dedication remained consistent, and they avoided musical stagnation, which i believe would be a fate worse then softening to appeal to more people. and i don't personally see anything wrong with that - whether or not i would do it, i see it as justifiable.

and i don't resort to a drum machine; i choose it because i prefer the advantages it carries. it works far better for me then a real drummer. i don't have to split money with it, help it move things, help mic it, have to work around it's schedule, argue with it, cope with it's failures, share pharmaceuticals with it, teach it the new part, wait for him to learn it, it's available at any time, sounds better, more flexible, bigger memory, etc. etc...

EMB5490  
29 Aug 2008 07:40 | Quote
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tell u what u go use a machine and tell me the feedback u get...
Nutter166  
29 Aug 2008 09:00 | Quote
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I like early metallica stuff the more recent (st.anger,death magnetic) are extremely disappointing =[ in that way MegaDeath are better .-. so for me I like both ahaha =]

and the drumming thing..I stopped drumming and picked up gutiar because drumming was to fucking hard .-. also I was moving and wouldn't have a drumkit to use anymore -_-
ironman91313  
29 Aug 2008 09:32 | Quote
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@baud
but megadeth is just better
baudelaire  
29 Aug 2008 11:35 | Quote
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EMB, i have done a LOT of shows, and no one has EVER complained about the drum machine.
EMB5490  
29 Aug 2008 11:40 | Quote
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thts b/c they complain about everything else...lol soz had to say it, tht was like a setup for an allyoop over dr.j. lol im jk of course, doesnt it feel wierd to play with a machine?! lol owned again hehe, my 14 year oldness is taking over...on all seriousness, at least if it screw up u can beat the living dalights outta it and if it survies it cant quit the band. lol
ironman91313  
29 Aug 2008 12:23 | Quote
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so what if the thing cant make a mistake or complain or whatever, I just think its stupid to have a machine playing an instrument. why not just make the whole band machines, it will never complain or make mistakes!

I would not want to live in that world
Notim  
29 Aug 2008 13:55 | Quote
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Well I think that Dave got F***ed over by Metallica,I was around when it started and I personally dont listen to or play any of there music, MegaDeath is better in my opion,not by what I said above but because I think there guitar work is better,But the drumming conversation could go on for eon's.....sounds like were heading to the rap conversation again...........Lmao
keniemn  
29 Aug 2008 15:35 | Quote
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metallica started goin down hill with the black album

megadeth keeps comin out with good shit
vote for megadeth
blackholesun  
29 Aug 2008 16:44 | Quote
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keniemn says:
megadeth keeps comin out with good shit


One word - "Risk".
BodomBeachTerror  
29 Aug 2008 17:07 | Quote
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blackholesun says:
keniemn says:
megadeth keeps comin out with good shit


One word - "Risk".


true.. but at least they admit that it sucks lol
league  
31 Aug 2008 16:05 | Quote
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LOL Risk was not good but The System has Failed and United Abominations gave new hope to speed Metal. Its just hard to find good lyrics and clean or semi-clean vocals.
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