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Secondary Dominant

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dadio_detroit_blues  
5 May 2006 11:45 | Quote
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I am playing around with some music where I want to use Secondary Dominents with a twist. I want to use a Major chord progresion but use the relative harmonic minor chords for the secondary dominic chord. If we us the example, C major chord progression the third is iii is em. The seconday dominant V7/iii is what?
Chimzar  
9 May 2006 12:24 | Quote
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I believe the chord would be a G7/E, being G is the fifth and E is the third. Some fingerings would be (Low to High): 0-2-0-0-0-1 or 0-5-3-4-3-3.
dadio_detroit_blues  
9 May 2006 19:09 | Quote
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Chimzar,

Thanks for your post but I am not sure if I ask the question correctly. I will will explain what I know about secondary dominants and then I will reask my question.

If start out with the standard C major scale using chords we would have

C dm em F G am bdim.

I could play a chord progression

C F C C
F F C C
D F C C and it would sound nice.

I could introduce the secondary dominant chords into the chord progression to give the simple chord progression some movement. For that slight momment of time when the secondary dominant is use you are not in the same key but the chord needs resolved by the chord you are leading it to it.

for example, When you play C then F you can introduce the secondary dominant chord V7/IV which in this example the dominant 7 chord of F is C7. So if you are playing in C and you want to add some movement into your music you can play C C7 then F.

to continue with the following secondary dominants for the C major chords are

V7 / ii A7 resolves to dm
V7 / iii B7 resolves to em
V7 / V D7 resolves to G
and so on.

I was considering to get some additional harmonization by using the relative harmonic a minor chords for the secondary dominants.

am bdim Caug D E fm gdim.

I thought the answer to my question was bdim7 but was not sure. I hope I explained my question better and thanks for your input.
dadio_detroit_blues  
9 May 2006 20:12 | Quote
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oops I butchered the a harmonic minor chords
am bdim caug dm E F g#dim
Chimzar  
10 May 2006 15:33 | Quote
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I am not sure if the minor harmonic chords work with the Major scale, but I do not have much knowledge on this subject.
dadio_detroit_blues  
10 May 2006 16:30 | Quote
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Bummer...the one gut in this forum that could have answered the question was you. I think what I am doing works but wanted to bounce it off an experienced guitarist. To try the idea...

C to Caug7 to F

E A D G B E

X 3 2 0 1 0 FOR C MAJOR

X 3 2 1 0 0 FOR Caug7

1 3 3 2 1 1 For Fmaj


When you use Caug7 you will notice a disatance harmonic quality to the chord and it leads you to the F real nicely, however, when you solo over it you need to really listen to what notes you are using.

Thanks again. I always enjoy your post.


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