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crislyn23_nt  
27 Jun 2008 23:24 | Quote
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hey guys, ! i just wanted to know if playing lead is basically finding the key of a song then matching it with the key of a certain scale, and just playing any note from that scale ? with the especial techniques of vibrato, pull off, hammer on, etc. off course . thank you for anything you guys can tell me,
foogered  
28 Jun 2008 00:19 | Quote
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I'd consider that soloing. Playing lead means you're carrying the melody of the song. However, often it helps to flavor the song with improvisationa here and there.
Skold  
28 Jun 2008 01:59 | Quote
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Took the words right out of my mouth, foog.

The guitar is a melodic instrument, crislyn.
Empirism  
28 Jun 2008 06:41 | Quote
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I often make one lick (melody) as theme of the solo and everything else is an improvisation through scale. It depends imo on scale that can play every note on the scale, it not working always.

ofc my soloing style is kind of screaming style so theres not that much of melody but anyway :D... I think natural pure minor is an scale that you can play almost every note on scale if you using natural minor thriad.
telecrater  
28 Jun 2008 06:53 | Quote
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Skold says:
The guitar is a melodic instrument


It's also a rhythmic instrument otherwise we would never play chords. :)

Music Theory can get rather complicated but if you play a simple chord progression for example C - F - G - Am and record it. Then play the C major scale over it it will sound good but if you play a F# major scale over not so good.

The reason for this is that each chord is made up of notes usually 3 notes (triad) C=CEG F=FAC G=GBD Am=ACE. All of these notes are also found in the C major scale (A B C D E F G)

Looking at the F# Major scale (F# G# A# B C# D# F) Many of the notes form the triad of our progression is not found in the scale and this is why it does not sound good.
Skold  
28 Jun 2008 15:26 | Quote
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Very true, but wasn't the guitar originally created to play melody? I think I heard something like that. Something like back in the OLD days, it was created to play melody.
telecrater  
28 Jun 2008 17:56 | Quote
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see if you look historically the how the guitar became the instrument it is today is sorta' a Cinderella story. Not don't quite me or anything but I'm partially pulling this out of my ass form what some music classes I've taken and stuff i read. the lute was grandmother of the guitar in Renaissance times. How they played it, I'm not really sure.

around the turn of the 19th century it became popular as the modern guitar became an area of interest in jazz music but the banjo was perfected because it had more natural volume. for the most part the guitar was a rhythmic instrument to help the band stay in key etc. but the guitar replaced the banjo in several jazz and blue grass outfits when the pickup was invented with amps.

one virtuoso guitarist after another has created the guitar the staple instrument it is today, but could very easily been a lost cause if the electric guitar was never invented.

listen to some old recordings of Louis Armstrong. they had a banjo backing up the band, much like a guitar is used today. I don't think it was really ever intended as a lead instrument.
crislyn23_nt  
28 Jun 2008 18:26 | Quote
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ah, hehe that helps all lot !!! thank you very much, hehehe
Doz  
28 Jun 2008 18:46 | Quote
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I think the electric guitar started as a rhythm instrument.
TheUndying  
28 Jun 2008 18:56 | Quote
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I think the guitar was invented to be awesome. People just didn't realize it's awesomeness at first, now they do and they worship those who can play it better than others...end of story
Skold  
28 Jun 2008 19:27 | Quote
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Yeah, but now it's over-shadowed a lot of different instruments. I get really sick of hearing people go "GUITAR IS BETTER THAN BASS!", or "KEYBOARDS ARE STUPID!1!! GUITAR ROX!".

It's sick.
telecrater  
28 Jun 2008 19:27 | Quote
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Yeah, ture but iw would say the same thing about fried chicken and imported beer. Behold the awesomeness!!!!!!!!11
EMB5490  
28 Jun 2008 19:29 | Quote
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i got in an arugment on youtube once when a guy said playinbg piano is much easyier then guitar. u cant compare instruments, it just doesnt work, every instrument has = hardness. maybe one is easyier to start at, but still u cant say tht im better then a keyboard player b/c its easy...its not.
league  
28 Jun 2008 20:47 | Quote
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Yeah ive heard from many piano players and trumpet players that guitar is hard to play. It depends on how your mind works.
Crunch  
28 Jun 2008 23:07 | Quote
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I would imagine after playing piano, where one action produces a note (the hitting of a key), it would be hard to adjust to a two step (or otherwise) system like the guitar where you have to fret a note and pick it.
blackholesun  
29 Jun 2008 04:39 | Quote
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The guitar definately started as a backing instrument or as a solo instrument. It wasn't until pickups and amps were invented that the guitar became a lead instrument as well, because it meant it could be heard over the other instruments.
Doz  
29 Jun 2008 15:07 | Quote
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+ Blues players took on guitars because they're more conveniant than expensive pianos.
EMB5490  
29 Jun 2008 15:17 | Quote
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seriously?
foogered  
29 Jun 2008 22:16 | Quote
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No, they chose guitars because they were the most vocal instrument they could find. Certainly they couldn't afford pianos, but that doesn't explain why they didn't choose any of the other instruments available to them.
league  
30 Jun 2008 00:09 | Quote
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Yeah it makes sense. One could bend a note, tremolo,slap, and strum or even create percussionon guitar. Piano may be limited in those areas.
Pager  
19 Jul 2008 05:25 | Quote
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na, blues musicians thought the guitar was portable unlike the grand piano which is true. but then again it depends on wen the keyboard was invented coz if dat was around in the blues age then my argument may be false.
foogered  
19 Jul 2008 12:19 | Quote
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There are plenty of other "portable" instruments they could have chosen from as well. Portability and cost had very little to do with it. It was the haunting vocal qualities that set the guitar apart from other instruments like the fiddle, banjo, and various horns. Now that's not to say that those instruments aren't used for blues and similar disciplines of music, but it started with the guitar. Horns didn't really come onto the scene until later when creoles in the New Orleans area and the "deep south" began introducing them into blues and early jazz.
Pager  
20 Jul 2008 09:44 | Quote
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lol i jus had a mental image of dat RAY guy playing piano...de dark guy wif glasses..lol..was he blind??
Phip  
20 Jul 2008 10:23 | Quote
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@Pager
You mean Ray Charles?
yeah, he was blind.

les_paul  
20 Jul 2008 12:25 | Quote
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You can bend guitar strings. Blues and string bending goes hand in hand.
Empirism  
20 Jul 2008 12:53 | Quote
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Yes, but we cant say that guitar or piano or any else instrument is meant for blues or blues was made for those instrument. When look back to the roots of blues, which were singed by slaves on the hayfields or alike to express their living and emotions.

It was sad that our history had a such thing as slavery for those black people, but atleast it gave us a great genre of music.

With all respect.
Empirism
foogered  
20 Jul 2008 13:02 | Quote
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Well said, Empirism.
Littlewing  
28 Oct 2008 19:40 | Quote
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The way I do it is playing a diffrent scale over each chord.

EX: C F G I'll play C Ionian, F Lydian and G mixolydian


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