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BodomBeachTerror  
4 Jun 2008 00:53 | Quote
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lol he already explained

ThePusher says:
I was qouting an episode of a show I used to watch in which the one guy does somethign adn the other guy freaks because that was his antithesis so he said it was like Jedi Vs Sith Jews Vs Arabs and as a running joke on the show he said or worst of Spaghetti VS Milk
Skold  
4 Jun 2008 12:37 | Quote
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Ok, so his logic is "Because they're Christians, they shouldn't play metal"?
GuitarBoy666  
4 Jun 2008 12:48 | Quote
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Anyone can play whatever genre they want.Doesn't matter if they are Jews, Christians, Atheists, or whatever, it's up to them what they wanna play.
Doz  
4 Jun 2008 15:15 | Quote
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Yeah, people should play whatever. It's like saying, because you're a vegetarian you shouldn't play metal. Just another lifestyle choice that you shouldn't let limit you in other areas of life
league  
4 Jun 2008 15:22 | Quote
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At one point everyone liked Metal. Same as almost everyone likes Hip-Hop now.
GuitarBoy666  
4 Jun 2008 15:23 | Quote
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Yeah, take Anti-Flag for example, awesome friggin' punk band, they are ALL vegetarians, against animal abuse, and they are very political. I guess people probably said punk shouldn't be political... Well too bad. A lot of it is.
Doz  
4 Jun 2008 15:27 | Quote
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Lol, GB, what are you on about? Punk started out as a political music movement!
league  
4 Jun 2008 16:29 | Quote
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It sure did that is one of the best fundamentals of Punk. Anarchy in the U.S.A?

Cata34  
4 Jun 2008 16:32 | Quote
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BodomBeachTerror says:
lol he already explained

I understand what he meant I just thought it was silly.
Skold  
4 Jun 2008 16:33 | Quote
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@GB

Are you kidding me? Punk back then was all about being political.
BodomBeachTerror  
4 Jun 2008 16:34 | Quote
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punk now is all about girls =p
GuitarBoy666  
4 Jun 2008 17:09 | Quote
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Yeah that's what I mean, BBT.
Like punk these days, err, pop punk I mean.
People consider THAT punk.
When they are being ignorant and didn't listen to REAL punk like the Pistols or Anti-Flag.

They don't know what punk is, punk is political, pop punk is everything but. Yet somehow people consider pop punk to be ACTUAL punk
Doz  
4 Jun 2008 18:00 | Quote
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I used to think that. I used to think pop-punk wasn't real punk but in actual fact a lot bands have a big DIY ethic and still address politics, but they address whatever else they want to aswell (because they write what matters to them, which is the spirit of punk).


Well, it might not be the same punk... but only in the same way that different forms of jazz aren't the same, in my opinion.
GuitarBoy666  
4 Jun 2008 18:27 | Quote
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Doz you make a good point, it's like saying Hair Metal isn't Metal as well. They write what's important to them as well.
Doz  
4 Jun 2008 18:43 | Quote
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Well... I was saying that punk bands and pop punk bands write about what's important to them, be it politics, relationships, the scene.

Hair metal bands sort of talk about sex, booxe and rock and roll, and whilst it might be important to them, it's still pretty shallow. But yeah, it's still metal at the end of the day just about something different.
GuitarBoy666  
4 Jun 2008 19:39 | Quote
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Pretty much, but not all hair metal is about sex and all that. A lot of that I have or used to have is about love and stuff like that.
Doz  
4 Jun 2008 20:38 | Quote
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Yeah, I know it's not all, but you get my drift? Often a lot more shallow than other music, and is probably why it's not respected that much.
GuitarBoy666  
5 Jun 2008 14:30 | Quote
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Yeah I see where you're going. I like music with emotion in it, but I do like kinda party style music too y'know what I mean
blackholesun  
5 Jun 2008 16:48 | Quote
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league says:
Anarchy in the U.S.A?


Ermm, don't you mean "Anarchy In The UK"?
GuitarBoy666  
5 Jun 2008 16:50 | Quote
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Anarchy in the USA is a Sex Pistols album, released in 2001...

http://www.amazon.com/Anarchy-USA-Sex-Pistols/dp/B00005MKDD

I just googled it aha
blackholesun  
5 Jun 2008 17:08 | Quote
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Anarchy In The UK was the name of their first single, released in 1976

Google results for "Anarchy In The UK": 864,000

Google results for "Anarchy In The USA": 23,700
Doz  
6 Jun 2008 00:37 | Quote
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The original is Anarchy in the UK, 1976 as BHS says. They must have released it in America later on under the new title in the USA, in a small act of convergance with the American public maybe. I'm not certain though.
Calvin  
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blackholesun says:
The original is Anarchy in the UK, 1976 as BHS says. They must have released it in America later on under the new title in the USA, in a small act of convergance with the American public maybe. I'm not certain though.

hummm, knowing leagues taste in music, I'm pretty sure he was refering to the Megadeaths cover version of the song, with an alternated lyrics that went:""Anarchy In The USA..." in the chorus, and not the Sex Pistols' song with changed title.
Skold  
6 Jun 2008 01:05 | Quote
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lol, hair metal (glam) is hardly even metal.
Calvin  
6 Jun 2008 01:24 | Quote
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GuitarBoy666 says:
They don't know what punk is, punk is political, pop punk is everything but. Yet somehow people consider pop punk to be ACTUAL punk

aha, so Ramones, The Damned, Buzzcocks, The Vibrators, The Dickies, Toy dolls, Descendents, Misfits...weren't "ACTUAL" punk bands?:P
Doz  
6 Jun 2008 02:44 | Quote
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Calvin: Thing is, we were discussing punk... which would involve Sex Pistols more than Megadeth. However, I agree with your second post on those bands listed. I don't think punk has to be politcal, but it started off politically.

Skold: Hair metal and glam aren't the same thing. They're similar, in some ways, but not the same thing.
GuitarBoy666  
6 Jun 2008 04:47 | Quote
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I just think punk should be political, and pop punk can be whatever it wants.
Don't get me wrong i love both genres, it's just that pop punk isn't that close to like crust punk.

Hair and glam are more like a poppy kind of metal, or rock, imo, than anything else.
Doz  
6 Jun 2008 12:18 | Quote
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Yeah, but crust punk isn't the original punk. I'd say some pop punk is arguably similar to original punk as stuff like crust punk is, just in different ways.

I'd say hair metal was a pop metal and glam was a pop rock.
league  
6 Jun 2008 21:42 | Quote
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I'd say that glam and hair metal were both just pop. Especially in the 80's. Most pop artists used guitars or some Rock and Metal elements. Today, Hip-hop dominates the pop market. Pop is short for Popular. Some pop metal bands like Dokken, Motley Crue, and Scorpions had good music that was worthy of Metal except it was really mainstream.
GuitarBoy666  
7 Jun 2008 11:07 | Quote
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I love all three of those bands. I am not really into a lot of mainstream but the Scorpions was my fav, then Motley, then Dokken
Doz  
7 Jun 2008 13:05 | Quote
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League, I know pop means popular... but I'm going of everybodies perception of pop as a particular mainstream sound and then using genres to differentiate between types of band.
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